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I wonder if she tried to get Caylee to first try and drink the fluid thinking it was gatorade. But, maybe it didn’t work and she did the syringe…unless the bottle was where she put it all. Although the bottle has the chloroform and cleaning liquid…the syringe had only chloroform right?
Talk to you later Nanna…It is very disturbing. I don’t think I could look at another picture or read anymore of the bug info..
thanks ss
steph,find she fingerprints on teh bottle or syringe???
Hi Everyone, does this mean since there was chloroform in the syringe that she injected caylee with this??
SS…I don’t know if they can say that 100% but it is another coincidence…too many of those
Mikka…i don’t know yet, I am going to see if I can find more detailed info on it than I read this morning.
ss yes it can be!
Stephanie, yeah if it was in the bottle she could have poured it on a rag and placed over her nose but being drawn up in a syringe is even more disturbing a poison being directly put in the blood stream…OMG
gotta run, have a good day…BBL
I am surprised if there is a finger print that none of the news stations are reporting on it yet.
ss cma is a monster,D.P all the way!!!!!!!!
Talk to you later SS…Thank you for bringing us over here.
Mikka…I am still looking, there are soooo many
Where is Gap?? She needs to help me find the darn syringe bottle, lol.
after 6month the car still smells like decomp,thats what she write,cindy your pizza smells long!
I am getting dizzy watching these charts zoom past me on the computer, lol.
Yes..it still smells real bad and strong. I wonder now, I bet it does and think they should close it up and bring the jury to visit the trunk during the trial.
steph makes me dizzy and blurry vision too!
steph yes drive him all there!
Just in for a second, gotta go get my flu shot. thanks for all the info everybody!
News now – Another shooting, in Orlando office building. 8 people shot seriously, shooter still at large.
Also, 11th victim found in house in Cleveland.
ugh
molly saw it,thats grazy!
Hi Molly…I would not be surprised if we hear them asking for a plea deal…if they want to save their clients life that is what they need to do…Thank you for the info. Talk to you later.
Mikka…I totally think they should. I hate for them to always know that smell, but it won’t be nearly as strong as what it was when Casey was driving around with her in there…it has aired out a bunch.
Mikka…My eyes too. I am going to go through a couple more before taking a nap…it made my eyes tired, lol.
Traces of clonazepam, a drug I think Cindy had BTW, in the hair mass. Very low levels, but Im sure that must be why Caylee slept through all the drunken parties Casey took her to. I really think her goose is cooked. If I had to guess Mikka, I would guess Casey injected the chloroform into the balloon and had Caylee blow on it, she would definitely inhale it, and no risk to the demon mother, JMO.
I agree Steph, I dont see how they can NOT ask for a plea deal at this point. The car evidence would be inough for most jurors. Its obvious if it was an accident, after a day of decomp smell she would gain her senses and report it, instead she waited a few days, partied it up, then discarded Caylee when the smell got too bad. sick sick sick.
Here is the picture of the gatorade bottle page 47
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21540506.pdf
I hope they tested the inside of the winnie the pooh balloon for chloroform…
when cma dumped teh body between 19-27 june,where she was hiding the body??? airport road may??
the bugsexpert say the bugs on caylees bones are get active in june ,too bad bozo dont cant say,teh body was not there in august!
I wonder how long the focken b*tch drove around with Caylee’s little body in the trunk?
Caylee should be here, she should of gone Trick or Treating.
I really wish someone would beat the crap out of her royal pudgy princess in jail already!
Mikka..I think the report said they really think the body was dumped by the 22nd. This was in the bug report. They can’t say 100%, but they think it was by than. I believe she was in the trunk the whole time except for maybe the night of the 16th…I think she was maybe stashed in the back yard and Casey backed her car up took her out to the airport but didn’t feel comfortable for some reason and didn’t dump her. I think she than on the 18th or 19th was going to try and bury her in the back yard but couldn’t dig a hole…She remained in the trunk until she threw Caylee away like trash over in the woods by her house, imo.
steph oh yep
lisa dont worry,but she say teh chloroform all over can be come from teh decomp body!
Hi Lisa…Someone will get to her.
Okay…I am off to take a nap, but I have the file left open to the gatorade bottle to finish reading. If you see anyone say something about a finger print…will you all let me know, thank you
bbs
steph,see ya!
Enjoy your nap Steph. Got my 2 year old nephew, so I’m trying to get him in for nappy time. Looks like that ain’t gonna be for awhile.
Bye :biggrin:
hi humble crew!
any smoking gun already? I’m afraid I’m not tuned to look at this today!LOL
Mikka!soon as “suspender’s man” comments on this new release, I wanna know!
That man (Shaeffer) has never let me down…
filipa,its a bombshell release.i am happy!
i make a nap too,see ya all later!
on fox news they are talking about some kind of jacket found, anyone know what this is about?
boyz thats a bullet jacket,i think thats have nothing to do with caylees murder!it was find by teh crimescene!
Can someone tell me where to find the info on the bottle of fluid, syringe, and results? Am scanning the docs….so much stuff to look at.
Thx
OK, found it…..if Caylee was injected with that syringe, and the syringe was capped and in the bottle, then DNA should be found in the hollow center of the needle.
I wonder if she used a needle with the syringe? Maybe she just used it to get the chlor. in her mouth. I did that with liquid meds when my daugher was a baby/toddler.
I haven’t read the doc…does it say there was a needle with the syringe?
Good point Marsha…let me go look. Yeah I gave meds that way too….
The picture shows a needle with it.
Yeah, I saw that too…makes me wonder
Did we (I) know that they found hair in a paper towel in a bag in the trunk? If all the evidence doesn’t prove her guilty, then we are in a sorry state in this country.
I think she injected it into something, maybe the balloon they found, then had Caylee try to blow it, inhaling more than she exhaled. Casey had to be careful not to inhale the fumes herself. Inhalation is the way to deliver chloroform, so she had to inject the liquid into something, shake it up to mix chemicals without inhaling it herself, then get Caylee to inhale. If Caylee injested it, lots of blood would have showed up on things I think. JMO. Long time since chemistry class!
oops ingested, I type with dyslexia I swear.
If they dont plea after those bug docs, Im not sure what to think. Id be begging for LWP is I were her.
BTW, being a nurse, Cindy knows if she brought home some disposable syringes. I use them for household projects sometimes, like superglue into little places, or I used them for grout cleaner ( lazy) they were easy to control the flow. If she had them, she cant deny any longer that Casey is responsible.
testing
Hello Everyone…been trying to talk to you all for a while and I was locked out, lol.
AZ…i was going to ask you about the syringe…I believe they said something about the wrap saying syringe kit…do you know what is in a syringe kit?
Azrenee, OR maybe she made it a game. Breathe in the helium balloon and make your voice sound funny.
As a nurse, I have never seen a disposable syringe “kit”. Syringes come in paper wrappers to peel back so all syringes are sterile. I have no idea what a kit is. AZ??? Any ideas?
Mikka I read the enthomology report, and wonder how the “whoris vulgaris” locked at OCDC would hiperventilate!
they found testertone (steroids) that must be what the needle is for
Livid, that sounds very plausible…I also don’t think she injected Caylee.
EDRN
i’m the needle woman!!I have a diabetic child, any relevant question?
It says plastic pouch labeled “disposable syringe kit” I had never seen anything like that either. I know our doctor had given us some disposable needles that were wrapped separately.
Its for Outpatient use. Usually for patients on chronic injections. I have given them to patients with Sickle Cell or other painful conditions that require IM injections, pain pills dont help. Its not common, but Im sure the clinic she works at might have used them too. Not many healthcare systems use them because of the needle stick issue, but they are around for the occ injection.
The syringe looked bigger than a diabetic syringe to me, but I didnt look that close.
I think we are wondering if there was even a needle in there…I don’t see one listed…it doesn’t say syringe and needle just syringe
My house is any junkies paradise!!!(at lest they choose to…not the cxase of my 6 year old)
Thanks Filipa….just trying to think if the bottle and the needle are truly part of the crime scene or just extraneous stuff. Trying to put the pieces into place. I wish I knew if they tested the needle for DNA…and if they did, what the results were. Or did I miss that part?
Too long of a needle for diabetic syringe, had to be gotten from a healthcare facility. It looks like a 10cc syringe to me.
I would think chloroform in the syringe would definitely be a huge coincidence. I hope they checked the inside of the balloon for chloroform.
Thank you AZ…Okay this might sound stupid, but a syringe and needle are seperate pieces aren’t they, lol.
they found testertone (steroids) needles are used for that
I read needle was there, somewhere, please dont ask me where!!! It looks like a long cap at least, now Cindy knows for sure, she would have been the one to bring that home…
I think it looks like a 3cc syringe with a needle. On fact in the documents it says syringe with needle. If was stuffed in a toilet paper roll that was stuffed in the bottle.
they are until they are screwed together lol.
hi everyone , just starting to read all that came in , is there anywhere i should start first
Yes Steph, needle can be twisted off and a different sized needle attached when necessary
Im not sure EDRN, looks a bit thick for a diabetic syringe though, they are really narrow. Usually we dispense them in lots of 25-50 ( not individually wrapped) not in individual disposable kits. Maybe other places do it differently.
Thank you…I started getting confused, lol.
CHlry…the bug info although it is sickening
hello everyone! Where do I find the picture/info on the syringe? That sounds like a bombshell!
Bug docs are the winner today Im thinking, JMO.
you are way ahead of me!!!this looks like so much stuff…I hope ppl at WESH will Dbrief us on half of it! lol
see the link above about the gatorade bottle, then go to page 47 I think.
Edrn…thank you again, I missed where it said syringe with “needle” thank you again.
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21540506.pdf
which one is the bug docs
It is not an insulin syringe. You can see the 1ml mark on the photo. And insulin syringes have short stubby orange caps.
So much to read Steph, its impossible to keep it all straight. I do think by the time this is over Ill know the Anthonys DNA profiles by heart lol.
Thanks EDRN. I felt it was larger too.
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf
Then you can explain all the dna charts to us AZ, lol
was something , a chemical found on her doll
Are we all on a tangent here, or do we think that the bottle, syringe and balloons are relevant to the case?
chlry
enthomology report
This is gross, but pool chlorine mixed with urine produces chloroform…Hopefully Casey didnt borrow anyone urine for this project, someone who was taking testosterone…too far fetched. Testosterone is taken to build muscle mass and keep you thin, I wouldnt put it past Casey to take it, you can order it on the internet even though its a controlled substance in the US.
thank you filipa
I did read that Chlry, but not sure if I rememeber this correct, too much reading. They might have a found a little chloroform, but in the end what they believe they really found on the doll was urine.
I don’t think Casey would risk the unwanted “male” side effects of testosterone. She is a “10″ ya know.
It is the link I posted just above for you chlry…forgot to put your name, sorry
Baez is phoning Gloria Stefan asking for a job at choir,right now…
I believe the bottle and syringe are relevant… the balloon just seems like a logical delivery system to me. How better to get a child to inhale than stick a balloon in their mouth, and a winnie the pooh balloon at that. She had to be careful not to get the fumes herself, espcially if she made it homemade and had no idea how toxic it would be…sick woman. Lots of chloroform traces found in the trunk, in the rug, spare tire cover etc. I have no doubt the chloroform in the syringe is connected, but Im no forensic scientist!!
ok thanks steph , maybe she had the doll in the bag w/ her , then removed it , i hate that skank lol
I do think it all has a lot to do with this case Edrn
OK all….had enough of docs for a bit….Got my book today, gonna go read about…what else…Caylee and her crazy, dysfunctional family. Have fun with the docs.
http://www.testosteronedecanoate.com/ This kind of tells about the one testosterone supplement, and it seems to block testosterone production in the body. Kind of confusing, but I would think men or women body building might use it. It can cause to to develop breats, lol so I think Casey might not mind it so much, just a thought, probably way off base.
AZ…if the lyons asks to talk to the state about a deal…do you think they will go ahead with a plea deal of lwop? I really think they would rather do that than take it to trial…with all the money this is costing and so many other cases going on they have to prosecute.
edrn i bought the dianne fanning book today too
I read that too Steph, the dol had urine on it..no surprise with a two year old sleeping with it since she was born.
I’m a bit sad…was waiting for a CSI epiphany moment, where bug & maggets would contain the child’s dna…
they also have found lidocaine
I am sure the state would Steph, JMO actually, but I dont think they will be able to get Casey to admit to doing anything wrong. She would have to make some statement, or I guess she could plead no contest, thereby not admitting to anything… Not sure how that works.
Edrn…Enjoy your book, lol.
Did anyone look at the link Humble posted and she said start on about page 5? In there they gave charts with blood and semen and something else. It was things found with Caylee and half of them had something under semen, but we don’t know what it means….would anyone here know how to read it?
I need to look up the clonazepam, Im pretty sure Cindy had a prescription for clonazepam or the brand name Clonopin. I ned to look back at the prescriptions they took from the house. I know there was a benzo in there somewhere.
Testosterone Propionate
Testosterone propionate, after Testosterone cypionate and enanthate, is the third injectable testosterone ester that needs to be described in detail. This makes sense because, unlike cypionate and enanthate, both of which are widely used and well-spread in Europe, proprionate is little noticed by most athletes. The reader will now certainly pose the question of why the characteristics of an apparently rarely used substance are described in detail. At a first glance this might seem a little unusual but when looking at this substance more closely, there are several reasons that become clear. Testosterone propionate is used on so few occasions in weightlifting, powerlifting, and bodybuild-ing not because it is ineffective. On the contrary, most do not know about propionate and its application potential. One acts according to the mottos “what you don’t know won’t hurt you” and “If oth-ers don’t use, it can’t be any good.” We do not want to go this far and call propionate the most effective testosterone ester-, however, in certain applications it is superior to enanthate, cypionate, and also undecanoate because it has characteristics which the common test-osterones do not have.
I saw they found trace amounts in the ” hair mass” the FBI had checked.
I have wondered how they would work that AZ..she would have to make a statement and would they make her tell the truth or allow her to say it was an accident…or the no contest if allowed?
I would think no contest would be allowed, but I dont know Fla law, whos our resident law person??? I dont think anyone cares what she says, if shes wiling to do the time, let her do it. LWOP is better as far as Im concerned, Ill try to look it up.
its the best doc dump ever!the goose is stuffed!
I can’t see her telling the truth and admitting the premeditation of Caylee’s murder, but I hate to see her get away with telling a story about it being an accident…
I was really confused on one page where it said they found traces of this or that in the hair, but right under it…they said negative on all 11 drugs tested.
Hi Mikka…Chlry is reading you bug doc now. Her goose is stuffed, lol.
All I can find, is if they plea for life WITH parole possible, In Fla she must serve minimum of 25 years before she is eligible.
Let me guess… ‘junk science”?
Little Caylee had a short scary life.. I remember having nightmares when I was little..for no reason..except have figured it out now that it was from watching Dumbo..
rememebr lee stating about jesse size???maybe jesse was using steroids(he would’nt be the first young guy to do do) and she stole them from his house that day she uesd the shower
wonder if WF did tell Lee what she did..so he came up with that about Jesse.. trying to frame him.. maybe Lee used them too.. who is to say and why did Lee tell that about jesse?
Thank you AZ…I still think they need to begging for a plea.
Brad…I love this junk science, lol.
Nanna…most of my dreams were about spiders and dogs, lol.
But, I had dreams constantly before Caylee was found…some after but not nearly as many.
Maze…could be, he certainly wouldn’t be the first.
steph,the bugexpert is the best!
brad
steph,azrenee,she dont will plea,she think still in her sick mind,she walk free!
Jesse was about the age it really started coming in to play…or at least steriods did around here at least
nannab
What abour Brad??? he use sterroids too?
Mikka…it really is the best, but I think the chloroform is pretty darn close to it….I don’t think Casey thinks she will walk free anymore. I am thinking if Lyons went in and talked to her…it wasn’t like what Baez would say.
BoyGeorge.. hmmmm.. his tan looks pretty fake..
steph,where was this bottle found,cma must be a stupid killer to through all evidence there!
steph,lyons want all dismissed!
bozo and lyons open her mouth to wide!
have work I hafta get done…
I think the confusion is that thirteen drugs are listed, ketamine and clonazepam were found in the hair. 11 drugs not found in the hair.
It was found real close to Caylee…I am going to look again, I went through some too fast but remember something about a bag…Let me go see
I think Lyons isn’t stupid enough to think Casey is going to walk free on this. She will just keep filing motions and try to make sure she doesn’t get the dp…she knows how strong the states case is and would be a fool not to ask for a plea.
Mikka Im psyched about the lil bugs. As sickening as the thought makes me, those lil guys may just be the bombshell that winds up this case. Trunk to woods, all correlating, I cant imagine that could be open to much interpretation.
The gatorade bottle was found in the disney bag wasnt it?
Ketamine is a drug used in human and veterinary medicine developed by Parke-Davis (today a part of Pfizer) in 1962. Its hydrochloride salt is sold as Ketanest, Ketaset, and Ketalar. Pharmacologically, ketamine is classified as an NMDA receptor antagonist[2]. At high, fully anesthetic level doses, ketamine has also been found to bind to opioid μ receptors and sigma receptors.[3][4] Like other drugs of this class such as tiletamine and phencyclidine (PCP), it induces a state referred to as “dissociative anesthesia”[5] and is used as a recreational drug.
Ketamine has a wide range of effects in humans, including analgesia, anesthesia,
Clonazepam is a benzodiazepine derivative with highly potent anticonvulsant, muscle relaxant, and anxiolytic properties.[1] It is marketed by Roche under the trade-names Klonopin in the United States, and Ravotril in Chile. Other names like Rivotril or Rivatril are known throughout the large majority of the rest of the world.[2] Clonazepam is a chlorinated derivative of nitrazepam[3] and therefore a nitrobenzodiazepine.[4]
Oh My, that is right. Lee had the health issue, with earlier in his life. Was that testosterone he was lacking??? I cant remember what Cindy said about that. I know it was embarassing and humiliating for him, but I thought it was a blood disease…another thing to look up lol grrrr.
azrenee
azrenee i told you all flies and teh maggots will be the key to teh case!
Mikka, do you know where the list of Cindys meds they took from the house are??? I cant find the dang list. I remember seeing it, and Im pretty sure clonopin was on it. Its most commonly used as a sleeping pill, or for restless leg syndrome.
look this ketamine is teh rapdrug
What does it look like?
Although it is manufactured as an injectable liquid, in illicit use ketamine is generally evaporated to form a powder.
How is it used?
Snorted or swallowed.
Ketamine is odorless and tasteless, so it can be added to beverages without being detected, and it induces amnesia. Because of these properties, the drug is sometimes given to unsuspecting victims and used in the commission of sexual assaults referred to as “drug rape.”
What are its short-term effects?
Ketamine can cause dream-like states and hallucinations. Users report sensations ranging from a pleasant feeling of floating to being separated from their bodies. Some ketamine experiences involve a terrifying feeling of almost complete sensory detachment that is likened to a near-death experience. These experiences, similar to a “bad trip” on LSD, are called the “K-hole.” Low-dose intoxication from ketamine results in impaired attention, learning ability, and memory .In high doses, ketamine can cause delirium, amnesia, impaired motor function, high blood pressure, depression, and potentially fatal respiratory problems.
What are its long-term effects?
azrenee let me look
thats only what i found,
Some muscle-relaxers and anti-anxiety medications were taken from the master bathroom that were prescribed to Cindy Anthony
bug doc is hard to read but fantastic , have a good time in hell casey , and take your mother with you :biggrin:
chlry
and geo,lee! 
AZ…Thank you, been searching for where I read that about the bottle and it was a disney bag. I haven’t found yet which doc I read that in, lol. Do you remember how close it was to Caylee…i thought it wasn’t far from her
yeah , yaeh mikka , but i want cindy first , those two will follow the ladies anyways lol
steph,but she write teh chloroform from teh trunk can be come from teh decomp
CHlry…it is good and shows Caylee was in that car and thrown away before casey dumped the car.
I think a fly being the smoking gun would be most appropriate for Casey. After all, see seemed to have an attraction to them, as in bar fly.
thats teh sheriff who told cindy,he never say to her sorry!
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21539070/detail.html
What do you mean about the trunk and decomp Mikka??
muesli,
it does steph , i wonder if george was lying about the gas can incident , always have
steph fbi write the chloroform is may from the decomposition of the body!
Has anyone heard anything from Biaz and his team about this release. I’ll bet they just said it is all junk science again. Of course, they have experts on all things, i.e., computer experts who cannot even display two pictures side by side on a screen. I would love to know Mr. Conway’s take on all of this.
it all fits
the smell,dogs alarmed at the trunk,the hair with the deatband ,and now the flies,paper with death wax on it! GUILTY!!!
muesli no,what will he say??? nothing!
Yes Mikka, but not the chloroform in the syringe.
Chlry…do you mean to le or greta
i also wonder if she used some of georges pest control chemicals on the body and in the trunk , this way it would be less buggy when she took caylee out of the trunk , remember all the tanks of pest control sprays le took in december
muesli conwheel will roll faster to cindy and geo!
Hi Muesli…I wonder if we will see any of them tomorrow morning on tv??
to le steph , i watched greta a couple weeks ago again on you tube , looking back now , they both seemed strange , nervous but not sad about caylee missing
bozo is so done,he dont cant say a stranger did this,the body was in the trunk,the jury dont care cma may had help to cover up,she was driving the car,done,done,done
I do remember those Chlry…I am still waiting to see what else they have like those the vacuums and the bin in the attic.
I do think George was telling the truth to LE in his interview about the gas cans…he didn’t come out and accuse her of taking gas but said he had to get those things out to work on cindy’s car….plus back than he looked at le instead of all over and the closing of his eyes…he has gotten better at lying since than.
mikka, what they will say is blah, blah, blah, innocent, blah, blah, blah, junk science, blah, blah, ad nauseam.
steph,now in florida is the big story its about the shooter,he take all cma fame away!
PLus…he was really embarrassed when he told LE what Casey called him, back than he was pretty honest with LE…not with the media, imo.
muesli
now we know why bozo file this dumm a** motions!
I know I was trying to read all too quickly, but I thought I read that they found additional hairs, one longer and blond/brown, and one shorter dark one. Casey’s hair was shorter at that time. These extra hairs were found in the trunk, but I don’t remember if in the plastic bag or on the paper towel. I am, in any case, going to go through it all more slowly.
This will be a big thing for all the shows to talk abotu today..I would think
Hi Everyone
Steph sorry cant help look for anything right now. Believe it or not I got all 3 grandgirls. I should have known better but when I agreed we did not know docs would come today. I take it there is alot of good stuff in them. or I guess for Caylee it bad stuff poor dear baby.
CHlry…do you have the link to the Greta interview?
muesli this plastik bag was from tonis house!
Gap…the bombshells are sad…I don’t like looking at the pictures either.
gap
I hope to be here sometime tonite after they go to bed.
not only that mikka , but they have proof her body was in the trunk and then in the wood , with the same bugs etc , so noone took her from that trunk , no stranger , just casey … how can she smile to this day , she should have said she was crazy
steph yes he did , better liar because i think cindy said this is how we will deal with it george , LIE and keep it going
chlry yep,she smile because caylee is gone,cma is a sociopath,no feelings whatever!
hi gap , i will have to finish later too because my kids are driving me nuts lol
let me look steph
What do I need to read first???
I think G&C’s plans are foiled..they may hafta go back to working real jobs…
My firefox is not working, grrrr
I hope so too gap.
Chlry, I wonder if she tells him if he is a good boy and lies all the way through the trial she might consider giving him his b*lls back??
gap teh bugs docs
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf
Gap…I am all for the bug doc first
they have prolly whithered..
steph great mind like the same!
Nanna…I think you are right, they will have to go back to work and struggle to keep the bills paid like most in America do
nannab
……
Mikka
teh car still smells like decomp,and not from teh pizza!
gone again.. bbs
steph go down to caylee’s grandparents speak out
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/caylee/index.html
ok thanks Steph and Mikka. I have to get back outside.
nanab,gap bye see ya!
Thank you Chlry…I am going to also find the part with the LE interview that he talks about it and play them side by side…one at a time of course, lol.
Enjoy Gap
Hope to see you tonight Nanna
this one too steph , exclusive access with george’s face go down , this is the back yard .. watch these two , i think they are full of poo http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/caylee/index.html
ok i have to go to dinner , see you all later
azrenee, i thought clonipin and clonzopam were kinda teh same. my daughter took clonzapam for seizures…
i am at work thanks for the answer mikka
my oldest son has epilepsy and takes clonopin it is a strong drug, it is also used sometimes in treatment for bi polar personality.
chlry bye see ya!
boyz your welcome!
Thank you Chlry…I think they are full of poo too
Hi Jamie and Boyz
Enjoy dinner Chlry
Okay…I will be back I need to watch these clips
got to go playin momopoly, just wanted to stop and check on docs but do not have time to read.
jamie love monopoly,watch out you dont go to jail!
okay I can’t play or even set up a couple videos to play, lol.
Steph, from what I can recall, if Casey makes a deal her testimony has to match up with all of the State’s evidence so she can’t just say anything.
About the steroids in the needle ~ could it be that it came from one of her many guy friend’s house? Jesse maybe? She did go into his bathroom, remember? Could it all be part of framing him?
bees,prosecution give her only 1 deal-life without parole!
what you think about the doc dump??
Hi Bees…that is what I thought, but my concern is that she can still slide by a bit when making a statement and say it was an accident and she set the rest up.
mikka, ketamine, although it is used by veterinarians also a street drug. It knocks animals out but has the opposite effect on people.
I don’t see them letting her have anything other than lwop. I really think the chances of her getting the dp if they go to trial is very high.
its so funny,dr.lee find 13 hairs in teh trunk,he dont saw the coffinflies?????
steph,it will,jury will see body in trunk,she drive teh car,thats all what matters!
Sorry. I’m commenting too much without reading first. I see that all of my points have already been made.
oh bees thanks!
steph,jury dont will believe teh accident,dr.g say duct tape prior to decomp,no way!
Listening to this old interview…they make me sick. Cindy says Caylee never had a father…b.s. if she didn’t have a father, they robbed Caylee and her father of knowing each other…of Caylee feeling real love like she should have from them.
I don’t think the jury will believe it either Mikka…I am a bit worried if they go with the plea Casey says it was an accident and she set everything else up to look like a kidnapping.
I have to say I don’t like Greta…i don’t think she does a very good job interviewing people
steph,so sad somewhere are another grandparents from caylee,cindy is sellfish like cma!
Gap, I’m in the same situation. My little granddaughters are coming for a sleepover tonight. I’m afraid that through the tea parties and games my mind will be on this evidence instead!!!
steph,and than she get manslaughter,thast over 20 years and all the another charges 15 years more +35 years!
bees,no dont think on teh doc dump when you are with your granddaughters!
Bees…that is okay, we all comment on the same points all the time, lol.
mikka, I’m very happy about this dump. I think it was just what we’ve been hoping for. Lots of damning evidence.
Mikka…that is something that really upsets me…the other grandparents, uncles, aunts and cousins along with a father that was never allowed to know her. It couldn’t have been too hard to find the father seeing how the fbi had it pretty quick.
There was no way Cindy was going to let another family come in on her property…maybe Casey wasn’t sure at first or even second. But, Cindy knew after Jesse nobody was going to come in there like that again.
bees,it is!its dont getting worst!
steph,because cindy is a biatch and cma dont know who the father is!
Mikka…she may not have known exactly but I always thought she had pretty good idea, because she keeps them around for a couple weeks or so. It couldn’t have been anyone too far attached from all of this for the fbi to find them…it had to be someone in this group.
I agree Cindy is a biatch
I left the docs to read something else,for a break.Did not even reached the seringe part…you were talkin’about. Was it from trash bags? (steroids might explain her lack of sleep) or was it dumped at the site? i did not get it…
brb
Hi Filipa…it was in a disney bag in a gatorade bottle at the site she dumped Caylee at
hb Mikka
You’re right mikka. I won’t be able to think about those pics while I’m cuddling up with my little :heart:Delaney and :heart:Ashlin tonight!
I think that there is a really strong chance that Casey is going to get the Death Penalty because I don’t believe she will make a plea. I don’t think she will ever admit to anything, accidental or not. I think not even the big Lyon or the big Bozo will get her to confess to anything.
why are they atlikng about rihanna again ughhhhhh
OOOPS!
Delaney and 
Ashlin.
bees love that name ashlin
mikka the coffin flies will be rebaptized as trunk flies, by experts from the trial on!
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BBL, Have a good night!!
Maze, I do too. It goes good with her middle name, Ashlin Shae.
Bees…I really think it was Baez that convinced her long ago they could beat this…LE watched George with Casey and saw they had a different relationship and Casey said yes I will meet with my dad…Baez canceled that. When she was arrested again and they talked to her…she would talk to them but had to talk to Baez first. Baez had them take her back to her cell. I really believe one of the things that had help keep her going from the beginning when 911 was called the third time…she had backers which was Cindy…than Baez. I don’t think she would tell the truth now with a plea…but I could see her saying it was an accident if Lyons is honest with her and telling her she will probably be convicted and the dp is a reality.
Hi SS and Thank you
Hi Maze
Okay…I will be back in a bit
New cit chat:
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Yep. Good points Steph!
Wow. I felt strangely happy knowing that the truth is out and that Casey WILL fry over this, one way or another.
So we now know that she injected chloroform into Caylee and that is what killed her. No Zanny. No script. No kidnappers. No squirrels. No Pizza. No Grunds.
Just saw a clip of that detestable dimwit Lee struggling to defend the child murderer by saying that being ‘forthcoming’ and being’truthful’ are 2 different things. Good God I have to stop now I’m so upset and humble will kick me off the site if I say what I’m feeling!! lol Take it easy friends and hold the ones you love close to you. We see so much evil but there is love in the world.
Perhaps Cindy takes harmone pills for “hot flashes.”
Hi Stephanie and hi to everyone else too .
Mary in michigan, i will be here tonite and i too hope to see you also.
Brad, I left you an apology on the other post.
Humble and everyone, i have to go and come back tonite and i hope i am on the correct post now so you guys get the messages.
Brad, i forgot to say i don’t know how to pull the apology post over here or i would but i am not that computer savvy. I agree with your post here on casey. have to go now but hope to see you here tonite.
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