Yes yes, Mike Brooks and Mark Klaas. I love those guys.
I’ve been so sick of NG for quite sometime. For awhile, it seemed as if every caller first had to say how much they looovvvee her and pay homage to the twins. After all, NG is the first woman in history to have twins, not.
I wonder if anyone is that family, is diabetic?? They would have syringes, or for that matter, Casey could of stole those syringes herself, from anyone she came into contact with.
Like I mentioned this morning, who knows how much crap that girl has stolen.
Hi humble – I was wondering what the mystery illness was that Lee had when Casey was a teenager – I think I read about it in Cindy’s depos. I was speculating that it was testicular cancer, since that would require lifelong testosterone injections. However, Livid remembered that it was thrombocytopenia purpura. Well, one treatment for ITP is…drum roll, please…modified testosterone.
This is ALL speculation!!! but gosh, how interesting, eh?
Lisa, I use to like her, but really got po’ed when MJ died and all the missing children came to a halt on her show! Like kids stopped going missing when MJ died! I don’t think so!
whenever cindy says or writes this nonsense on “behalf of daughters defense”, hope she remembers the lies she told her friens, about parents moving to a condo, leaving the house to herself to live, and her concious desire (Awaken dream) that her mother would evaporate from her life…
Acctually, the happy side of her being imprisoned nowadays,is the wonderful gift of finnaly get rid of your influence in her life. You really think she would exchange such valuable achievment for freadom???
Have we found the doc yet that spells out the “results” finding chloroform in the syringe? I really want to see it for myself… I know you’re looking, Steph, lol.
Well, if they are her prints, then SINdy would come back and say someone, the “10″ nanny made her touch that syringe. so there ya go! We now just sit and wait for SINdy to let it rip out of her mouth!
As I am going through these docs I am reading some emails about the doc tape…It was really meant for ducts. I don’t remember ever seeing Larry have grey duct tape…lots around the house but his is shiny. Anyhow I asked him what the deference is between the duct tape we have and what he uses (btw they don’t use tape anymore) for the ducts and he said there are many different ones you use for different places. The grey duct tape they used to use was more gummy to make sure it would stick through the heat and cold air.
I’m waiting for hubby to come home from work, and bring me a burrito. I don’t feel like cooking this late, though its the norm for me, with his crazy work schedule. Kids are sleeping, now I’m just waiting for him.
I think Lee’s medical problem was severe Acne. He was treated with Accutane, and I think I read somewhere he had bad side effects from it. I searched Accutane and testosterone and came up with not much.
Am I the only one or does this case drive everyone crazy? Every doc dump brings up more questions than answers and I drive myself to distraction trying to make it all make sense. But then I tell myself that nothing this family does makes sense to anyone with half a brain.
Edrn…here it is. Go to page 5 and there is 5-7 pages with an item on each page. It has blood, semen and other in the columns above. There is writing under some of the items in the semen column…like the letters they found with Caylee. I was hoping you could make sense out of it for me. I do know it is more forensics than nursing, but somethings might read similar, lol.
You are right Edrn…nothing the family does makes sense. After all they think they don’t have to follow the same rules as the rest of us…not the all entitled Anthonys
Lisa…I don’t know that they did find semen…it is kind of odd the items where something is listed under semen…like the letters from Caylee’s shirt. i just don’t know what any of it means and I guess we didn’t expect to see anything listed under semen. I also think it is probably nothing because none of the news stations picked up on it…I would think at least one would if it was something.
It looks like they checked all the items for blood, semen and other. I don’t see that any semen was found. The interesting thing is is that it says known semen swatch….who’s the known semen donor??? Lee??? George??? Jesse??
In one of the emails the fbi agent is telling the person at Henkel (or whatever the makers of the duct tape company is) how much they, the investigators and the victims family appreciate their efforts.
I wonder if they have been paying a little more attention to this case because their tape being used and realize how much the family doesn’t appreciate anything at all they are doing. They might even find a reason to go after they next.
I haven’t found the rug yet Humble…I am trying to go a bit slower than yesterday when I scanned over so much. But, I will be up early looking before the leaves get mowed
Okay I am really going but wanted to finish this last doc I had open. Do you all think Casey really put Caylee in that shirt because of what it said? I don’t Casey putting that much effort but LE thinks she did.
I saw that Humble and wonder if she was holding her doll when Casey had injected her…maybe dripped some on the doll. They also had seen something they thought was there ended up being they believe urine.
Humble, now that you and Steph cleared up the Gatorade “Cool Blue” bottle and syringe issue, did you see what the brown liquid was in the Crystal Light bottle? pic (Q 241)
Steph, well if it was just a drip they will be able to tell. I just find the defense NOT having any excuse for the chloroform smell except it was chloroform from Casey! NOT the pool~
Hi Smoke…I think that is where I got confused…wanting to know what the brown stuff was in the vial that came from the crystal light bottle. I haven’t found that yet either. But, we will find it, lol. Haven’t seen you in a bit…How are you?
I’m learning a lot from all of you! Still thinking about going back to school to brush up on some science and chemistry, though. This stuff gives me a headache!
I have tried to open that file a couple times…it is freezing and I was thinking it was because I had too many docs open. I was trying to get through them real quick so I could open, lol.
I love all the forensic stuff, but I think I have to give the bug guys the most credit. To find a leg of a fly in a bag of trash…that is amazing. I can’t remember who it was that watched a show that I had watched…Thinking it was maybe you Humble. But, they went through all of the bugs on the grill of the vehicle and found some that would only be in a certain area to prove he drove there and killed his wife and drove back to Ohio. Still to find a leg of a fly in a bag of trash had to be so painstaking.
They sent it back to dna and latents again back in march…I was just wondering what it was and trying to figure out why. But, I guess it doesn’t matter because they found nothing on it…Of course Cindy washed it and that is probably why
OY, hey steph,
Q242 – Knife
9″ long no hairs/fibers found
Q242 (Knife)listed “for latent”
Q242 Stainless stell serrated knife
Unfortunately the clear, stick materials recovered from the knife did not match the duct tape.
This doesn’t mean the duct tape couldn’t have been “bit” off rather than “cut” off.
If they find a couple drips of blood here or there that would be normal…especially if it is in the back yard where you fall down and get hurt more. As long as it isn’t more than a drop here or there that is…
Thank you for clearing that up for me. Like I said earlier, all of this technical stuff gives me a headache. I’ll take another look at it in the morning when rested.
I don’t think so either. I think she thinks she can win and walk, but she sure will win, and get the needle. I guess she can’t say much after, she will get exactly what she gave Caylee! The needle!
Yes, I wish HLN would get rid of Joy too. I never watch the “View” because I can’t tolerate her dumb mouth. Mark Klas & Mike would be excellent in NG’s place, she has also gotten to me. I never watch her anymore unless I come on here & see that she had something on the Anthony’s then I catch her next show (I get it 4 times a night here). It seems that JVM is taking acting lessons from NG, she is getting pretty mouthy. What is with these big mouth women, Joy, Nancy & Jane??? And notice, they are all on HLN!!!!! Also, Mike Galanos (sp) is really pleasant & informative. HLN= get rid of your obnoxious women!!!
I’ve been up all night, could’nt sleep. So, hopefully I can now, soon it will be daylight. I will try to catch up with you later on today. Have a good day, you may need a nap??
Hi Muesli and Mary… I found something and was wondering if you happen to know what they may be talking about Page 22 first entry…I can’t read their writing very well and only scan it. But, I believe they say they found latent prints.
Right, justme, I just saw that. But it doesn’t say from where they lifted the latent prints. It does say that they discussed it and decided not to release it yet, as far as I could interpret it.
GM you two…I can’t make out the writing very well either.
Muesli…It is one of the hand written pages. Also if you go up on the left margin you see a couple icons…one being a paper…there also might be an arrow. Click right there and it opens up the pages and you can do down to page 22
Here’s what I’m making out on it.. See if you all can make out the ones I can’t.. Don’t know if it would make a difference or not though..
Telcall w/SA Savage & IA Redmond-add’l items to be submitted 3/5/09 to include swabs that OCSO collected. OCSO did lift latent prints & then finished (can’t make out) them so items will not be submitted for (can’t make out) as previously discussed. Also submitting pieces of poss duct tape from scene- (can’t make out) info provided-doesn’t appear to be similar to tape from remains, but wants lab to confirm.
That is what I am getting, but in the first can’t make out I think it is processing…they finished processing. I am looking up and down around that sheet to try and figure out which piece of evidence they may be talking about
Well, this is the entry right before that, so maybe it’s the tape?? Although the dates are different, the documents are in numerical order.. (Handwritten numbers on bottom of each page)
Since LPU report already went out w/specimens Q316 & Q317=tape- did not address changing description. (See notes & report)
Steph.. If you think about it, it just about has to be the tape.. Look at the report following the note you referred to.. The first 7 items were swabs that were done, probably for chemicals/blood… Swabs wouldn’t contain fingerprints, IMO.. The next few items could.. The piece of stone, doubtful.. The fabric, doubtful, but the tape, real good possibility.. I HOPE!!
I had a print out on what all the evidence was numbered and have no clue what I did with it.
I keep hoping it is the tape, but which tape…at home or the scene? Plus they have the gas tanks in there which I would be surprised if no prints were found on them from any of the Anthonys…I wish it would at least give us a clue instead of additional items…I started looking for what maybe wasn’t submitted, but too difficult because there are so many
Justme…That is also what I thought looking at swabs with are for chemical/dna tests…not the stone or fabric either and so what else but the tape. But, like I said above maybe it is the gas cans
I made out some more of it.. Here it is with the new things added:
Telcall w/SA Savage & IA Redmond-add’l items to be submitted 3/5/09 to include swabs that OCSO collected. OCSO did lift latent prints & then finished PROC’ING (probably processing as steph said) them so items will not be submitted for LPoU (Latent Prints Unit) as previously discussed. Also submitting pieces of poss duct tape from scene- UPON info provided-doesn’t appear to be similar to tape from remains, but wants lab to confirm.
Q316 &317 are two pieces of tape.. Q318 is one LONG piece of tape.. Just about has to be the tape from Caylee doesn’t it?? It WAS submitted to LPU on 3/5/09..
Awww.. C’mon.. I need to ask you one thing.. Or Muesli, if you’re still here.. Where can I find the page with the fingerprint on it.. The one where there’s nothing else attached.. Only the fingerprint!!
Chit.. Missed you Steph.. Was just wanting to find the page with the lone fingerprint on it.. Was just wondering where it fit in with the pages of the documents just released.. You know, as in hand written numbered pages.. Probably a long shot though..
I would love to have the dna results from all the things the Anthony’s told LE and FBI that Casey shared with the nanny, i.e., diaper bags, etc.. They are looking for prints and dna from someone other than the Anthony family.
You know, even if (God forbid) Casey got out of jail for this, can you imagine the non-life that she would have outside. No education, no money, no future, no job, no friends, always scorned. And, the icing on the cake, Cindy would be stuck with her again. Now, that would be a proper punishment for Cindy for all the lies and covering up she did.
I would think at this point, with all the evidence that is coming out, Casey feels safer in her little “dorm” room than at home, alone with Cindy. Now, that is scary!
And, next time the drama queens, G&C, want to play suicide, I’m sure that between all of us here we have enough left over meds we could make available to them. I would even contribute a 1.75 ltr. bottle of vodka to wash them down. I am so sick of their theatrics.
I won’t have any time today to be here as my Swiss guests arrive around 11 a.m. till Tues morning. A cold lunch is ready, their rooms are ready, dog & cat hair vacuumed. Sometimes it seems I am running a hotel here. I’ll sneak my laptop into the bathroom from time to time to see what you all are up to. I can hardly wait to hear Biaz and Co.’s response to the doc dump.
Does anyone else think, Mike Brooks should have his own show??
I love him :biggrin:
OMG, was I really first?? Must be a computer glitch
Here…
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him too Lisa! I think he needs his own show. They need to get rid of Joy what’s her name!
I think he should Lisa
Hi again Gigs
Computer glitch! Too funny!
Hi ya Gig!
I would like to see Mike Brooks and Mark Klaas have their own shows. It would be a much better choice than NG these days.
Livid –
Idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura (ITP) has many treatments one of which is synthetic testosterone — very interesting, don’t you think?
Oh, and look at this pic – kind of looks like Casey’s back, eh? http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/dci/Diseases/Itp/ITP_WhatIs.html
Here’s the site listing “modified testosterone” as a treatment http://www.pdsa.org/itp-treatments/index.html
Well my goodness, I wonder where she got that syringe? Huh.
Gig, it would be! But NG is in for the drama! The guys wouldn’t be fake about to cry on the shows! They are not as emotional as her or screamer!
Idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura (ITP) has many treatments, one of which is synthetic testosterone — very interesting, don’t you think?
The Platelet Disorder Support Association website lists “modified testosterone” as one of the treatments.
Well my goodness, I wonder where she got that syringe? Huh.
What kind of show did David Lohr have? He got a pink slip from ID channel!
PLEASE get rid of Joy Beharsh. I can’t stand her. Why did she get a show?? The evils of TV will never be known.
Hi ya Steffie….update me, who has ITP?
I am with you on that Lisa! She needs to go! She needs a pink slip! She needs a closet to be locked in! With no flashlight!
Yes yes, Mike Brooks and Mark Klaas. I love those guys.
I’ve been so sick of NG for quite sometime. For awhile, it seemed as if every caller first had to say how much they looovvvee her and pay homage to the twins. After all, NG is the first woman in history to have twins, not.
She needs her mouth sewn shut!!!!
I wonder if anyone is that family, is diabetic?? They would have syringes, or for that matter, Casey could of stole those syringes herself, from anyone she came into contact with.
Like I mentioned this morning, who knows how much crap that girl has stolen.
That hairstraightener was definately stolen.
Hi Steffiee..I have restarted on those docs…we will find it, lol.
Hi humble – I was wondering what the mystery illness was that Lee had when Casey was a teenager – I think I read about it in Cindy’s depos. I was speculating that it was testicular cancer, since that would require lifelong testosterone injections. However, Livid remembered that it was thrombocytopenia purpura. Well, one treatment for ITP is…drum roll, please…modified testosterone.
This is ALL speculation!!! but gosh, how interesting, eh?
Lisa,
I use to like her, but really got po’ed when MJ died and all the missing children came to a halt on her show! Like kids stopped going missing when MJ died! I don’t think so!
Joy Behar??!! For somebody that has absolutely nothing intelligent to say, she talks an awful lot.
Steffie, thanks! I remember reading now about the illness. Oh I hope there are prints on that syringe. Wouldn’t that be a hoot!
You’re right Humble. That annoyed me too.
Gonna watch cops, bbl.
whenever cindy says or writes this nonsense on “behalf of daughters defense”, hope she remembers the lies she told her friens, about parents moving to a condo, leaving the house to herself to live, and her concious desire (Awaken dream) that her mother would evaporate from her life…
Acctually, the happy side of her being imprisoned nowadays,is the wonderful gift of finnaly get rid of your influence in her life. You really think she would exchange such valuable achievment for freadom???
Have we found the doc yet that spells out the “results” finding chloroform in the syringe? I really want to see it for myself… I know you’re looking, Steph, lol.
brb
bbl
the poorest blind is the one that does NOT wish to see…
Heyah..
Hi Colhere…Did you happen to see the doc that has the results of the syringe??
Hi ya Col…
Steph, I think I just saw it was helping you look for the results of the rug and bottle.
bbl…..
Here is what Steffie posted on the last post and it was in moderation:
Idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura (ITP) has many treatments one of which is synthetic testosterone — very interesting, don’t you think?
Oh, and look at this pic – kind of looks like Casey’s back, eh? http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/dci/Diseases/Itp/ITP_WhatIs.html
Here’s the site listing “modified testosterone” as a treatment http://www.pdsa.org/itp-treatments/index.html
Well my goodness, I wonder where she got that syringe? Huh.
Steffiee
7 Nov 09 at 17:50
I hope her fingerprints are on the syringe.
gig, that would be a huge nail for her coffin!
Thank you Humble
I would love to see some finger prints on that syringe
Well, if they are her prints, then SINdy would come back and say someone, the “10″ nanny made her touch that syringe. so there ya go! We now just sit and wait for SINdy to let it rip out of her mouth!
I wonder if that pregnancy test that was found out there was Caseys?
Oh Humble, don’t give Sindy any ideas!
Hey, what has happened to 48 hrs mystery??
Anyone anyone, Bueller….
So true Humble, lol.
As I am going through these docs I am reading some emails about the doc tape…It was really meant for ducts. I don’t remember ever seeing Larry have grey duct tape…lots around the house but his is shiny. Anyhow I asked him what the deference is between the duct tape we have and what he uses (btw they don’t use tape anymore) for the ducts and he said there are many different ones you use for different places. The grey duct tape they used to use was more gummy to make sure it would stick through the heat and cold air.
It probably was her test Steph. She was a slob, look at all the crap and garbage they removed from her car.
Slob slob slob
Is it coming up on the guide Lisa?
Does anyone know why Georgie girl had duct tape on those gas cans??
No Steph, its college football, and last week, it was a repeat.
Steph it was a gatorade bottle the syringe was found in.
I’m waiting for hubby to come home from work, and bring me a burrito. I don’t feel like cooking this late, though its the norm for me, with his crazy work schedule. Kids are sleeping, now I’m just waiting for him.
God, I love him
I am not sure Lisa what happened to it…I bet it will be back next week or in a couple weeks.
Humble…So I kept wondering where the heck I got a gatorade bottle from…Thank you I am not as lost as I thought I was, lol.
I think Lee’s medical problem was severe Acne. He was treated with Accutane, and I think I read somewhere he had bad side effects from it. I searched Accutane and testosterone and came up with not much.
Lisa, is 48 hours missing? LOL! Sorry about giving SINdy the idea for an excuse. lol
Steph, yea my man got yelled at for using duct tape on the ducts at work…hence it is duct tape and gray, as is the inside of the sub!
And didn’t they say, the blue liquid found in the Gatorade bottle couldn’t be identified?? Wonder if it was Windex she tried to get Caylee to drink.
OMG< poor Caylee, it breaks my heart what that precious, innocent baby went through due to her disgusting, diseased ridden birth mother.
After a while it because real old cooking late at night…I don’t like it at all.
EDRN, true he has that problem…Casey has it on her back!
I hope 48 hrs when it comes back, is new. I think on TLC tomorrow, they are having a special on Jaycee Dugaard.
I hear ya Steph. He works Friday to Monday, from 9am to 9pm, then is on call till 11pm. Sometimes he doesn’t get home till midnight.
So I always try to have a hot meal for him, even though by that time, who wants to mess up the kitchen, lol :biggrin:
Hi Edrn…I am going to find a doc maybe tonight but for sure tomorrow and ask if you can tell me what it mean…if you would.
Humble…lmbo
Lisa…I was wondering if she was trying to get her to drink the poison first…they said their was chloroform in there also with the cleaning product
Am I the only one or does this case drive everyone crazy? Every doc dump brings up more questions than answers and I drive myself to distraction trying to make it all make sense. But then I tell myself that nothing this family does makes sense to anyone with half a brain.
Hi Steph….the docs are making me nuts!
Edrn…here it is. Go to page 5 and there is 5-7 pages with an item on each page. It has blood, semen and other in the columns above. There is writing under some of the items in the semen column…like the letters they found with Caylee. I was hoping you could make sense out of it for me. I do know it is more forensics than nursing, but somethings might read similar, lol.
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21540778.pdf
OK…let me look
OMG Steph, what a freakin, heartless b*tch she is. She is true physcopath.
Her own mother said she was one, now who would say that about, their, “best friend”
I haven’t read everything, where did they find semen??
Here is the syringe results page 53:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=15178545
You are right Edrn…nothing the family does makes sense. After all they think they don’t have to follow the same rules as the rest of us…not the all entitled Anthonys
Thank you Humble…You are the best
Humble, you are the best. You are always on top of everything, and spot on, and quite fun :biggrin:
When are you going to write your own book, regarding this saga?? Probably best to wait, after they autopsy the scank, after they electrocute her.
Lisa…I don’t know that they did find semen…it is kind of odd the items where something is listed under semen…like the letters from Caylee’s shirt. i just don’t know what any of it means and I guess we didn’t expect to see anything listed under semen. I also think it is probably nothing because none of the news stations picked up on it…I would think at least one would if it was something.
It looks to me like they tested the articles found for semen from a known source…that is all I can figure out.
I wonder if the marks from the chloroform rag were getting to be too much around her mouth, she thought she would inject ehr instead? Just a thought!
It looks like they checked all the items for blood, semen and other. I don’t see that any semen was found. The interesting thing is is that it says known semen swatch….who’s the known semen donor??? Lee??? George??? Jesse??
Wait, maybe the semen swatch, came from Zanny, the invisible Nanny’s invisible ex-husband?
So they did have known samples, but didn’t find any?
Could be Humble…I just think when she injected Caylee, she was doing it to get rid of her for good.
Thanks Lisa…I had to go back through all those darn docs and see where I was reading! lol
Humble…I would buy your book and wouldn’t wait for to get it at half price books. Of course I would expect you to autograph it for me, lol.
In one of the emails the fbi agent is telling the person at Henkel (or whatever the makers of the duct tape company is) how much they, the investigators and the victims family appreciate their efforts.
I wonder if they have been paying a little more attention to this case because their tape being used and realize how much the family doesn’t appreciate anything at all they are doing. They might even find a reason to go after they next.
That’s my take on the info Steph, but I am no forensic person.
Oh they are talking about Somer, on AMW right now.
Hubby’s home, time to chow down.
Goodnight everyone :happy:
LOL! Steph! I would for sure autograph it for you!
Steph, Heckel must be making some money. They are connected to a (in)Famous case!
Thank you Edrn…I think you are right.
Lisa…I missed it. It was on a bit ago here.
Okay I am going to call it a night..I have to get the leaves mowed up early tomorrow morning. You all have a good evening.
Night Lisa! eat slow!
Before you go Steph, anything on the rug!
Humble…LOL
I haven’t found the rug yet Humble…I am trying to go a bit slower than yesterday when I scanned over so much. But, I will be up early looking before the leaves get mowed
good nite Steph
OK Steph! thanks! I will look for the rug info!
Okay I am really going but wanted to finish this last doc I had open. Do you all think Casey really put Caylee in that shirt because of what it said? I don’t Casey putting that much effort but LE thinks she did.
According to that link above, item Q244 is the doll, there is chloroform found on the doll!
I think it was just the shirt she had on Steph.
Good night steph. I honestly don’t think Casey is that clever.
I agree Gigs and Humble
I saw that Humble and wonder if she was holding her doll when Casey had injected her…maybe dripped some on the doll. They also had seen something they thought was there ended up being they believe urine.
Good night gigs…I am now sitting out here finishing a smoke, lol.
Hi Everyone!
Humble, now that you and Steph cleared up the Gatorade “Cool Blue” bottle and syringe issue, did you see what the brown liquid was in the Crystal Light bottle? pic (Q 241)
Steph, well if it was just a drip they will be able to tell. I just find the defense NOT having any excuse for the chloroform smell except it was chloroform from Casey! NOT the pool~
Smoke I did not! And Hi ya! I will go and look. I am wondering what the tubes were, toilet paper rolls, but why in the bottle!
Humble,
Don’t know about the toilet paper roll thingy in the bottle, but that chemical cocktail mixture in the Crystal Light bottle was the bomb!
Ingredients of the brown liquid in the Crystal Light bottle [discovery doc p. 11553]
Hi Smoke…I think that is where I got confused…wanting to know what the brown stuff was in the vial that came from the crystal light bottle. I haven’t found that yet either. But, we will find it, lol. Haven’t seen you in a bit…How are you?
Humble…I agree the pool BS will NEVER fly.
Hi Steph,
I’m doing okay. Thanks for asking.
Hi Smoke, I see your catching my lingo! LOL I call just about everything a thingy!
Steph, well ya didn’t Docta Lee say it could come from swimming in a pool in a Dora pull up?
Steph,
You will find both bottles and their contents in the link Humble provided:
REPOST
Here is the syringe results page 53:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=15178545
humbleopinion
7 Nov 09 at 19:23 Edit
Thank you Smoke…
Does anyone happen to know what Q242 is?
Humble…He did and he also said the smell could have come from a dead animal or all the meat and cheese in Casey trunk.
Yeah Humble,
I’m learning a lot from all of you! Still thinking about going back to school to brush up on some science and chemistry, though.
This stuff gives me a headache! 
Smoke, what was in that bottle. I see what is found, but what did it make? Anything good? (My doctrine paper got lost)
I have tried to open that file a couple times…it is freezing and I was thinking it was because I had too many docs open. I was trying to get through them real quick so I could open, lol.
Q242 is the knife Steph!
I am thinking about going back to school also! They have a great program out now for Military spouses. It is really good!
Since I changed over to foxfire, I have had no problems at all!
I love all the forensic stuff, but I think I have to give the bug guys the most credit. To find a leg of a fly in a bag of trash…that is amazing. I can’t remember who it was that watched a show that I had watched…Thinking it was maybe you Humble. But, they went through all of the bugs on the grill of the vehicle and found some that would only be in a certain area to prove he drove there and killed his wife and drove back to Ohio. Still to find a leg of a fly in a bag of trash had to be so painstaking.
Sorry it is firefox.
Oh yea we watched it Steph. Yes, the bug guy is GOOD at what he does!
They sent it back to dna and latents again back in march…I was just wondering what it was and trying to figure out why. But, I guess it doesn’t matter because they found nothing on it…Of course Cindy washed it and that is probably why
OY, hey steph,
Q242 – Knife
9″ long no hairs/fibers found
Q242 (Knife)listed “for latent”
Q242 Stainless stell serrated knife
Unfortunately the clear, stick materials recovered from the knife did not match the duct tape.
This doesn’t mean the duct tape couldn’t have been “bit” off rather than “cut” off.
I opened it with my firefox and it froze half way through…don’t know why.
Q241 – Unknown Liquid (later identified to smell like urine) This is the crystal light bottle from the car
Hi ya CT! Thanks!
Q241 Brown Liquid
Odor consistent with urine.
Water
No chloroform
Q244 Doll
Chloroform Residue
LOL Steph. I have no clue!
CT, so pee smell was in the cl bottle!
Yep Humble
Hi CT…did you also see the info on the rug??
Steph, from earlier
Q245 Rug
Some hairs picked off prior to vacuuming
No decomp, fur hairs
Sorry, my mouse froze up. Had to reboot.
I wonder if that was someone’s pee bottle to pass a drug test. One of my customers sons was getting friends to do that for him.
But was their blood on the rug?
Thanks CT! how did she pee in that bottle?
All better Smoke?
Uhm, I don’t remember seeing that there was blood on the rug, I don’t have notes on that…..I wonder why
Here is where I updated the info on the Crystal Light bottle:
http://humbleopinionforum.net/cma-timeline-april-2009/
Thank you CT
Are you all better Smoke? Thank you
If the bottle had urine in it….does that imply that Casey was in the car so much that whenever she had to pee, she peed in the bottle….geez?
Yes Steph, Thanks!
Thanks Smoke! Your time line is wonderful! i appreciate all the work you put into it!
I can’t find the info on the rug…or haven’t
gotten to it yet!
I would have been hard for her to pee in the bottle EDRN, but with her and the pings I have seen of her’s she was always in that car!
Steph,
Rug is negative for blood
Can someone tell me the difference between Blood Batch #1 and #2?
Okay…I am really going now.
Humble and Smoke…thank you for everything you all do for us.
Thank you again CT…now we need to find out what the H was in that bin that they took from the attic. I bet we never find out.
Night again Gigs
You all have a good evening and I will see you tomorrow
I wonder if batch is for say casey or Caylee’s blood?
How did all of these ingredients get reduced to urine?
Brown Liquid mixture – MEOH(poss), Methyl Ethyl Ketone(poss), 2-Butanol(poss), Dimethyl Disulfide(poss), Anisole(poss), p-Cresole(poss)
Now I really must go take a chemical class or two!
Steph,
Rug was compared to Known Blood Batch #2
Whereas the syringe was compared to batch #1 (negative)
Good Night Steph!
If they find a couple drips of blood here or there that would be normal…especially if it is in the back yard where you fall down and get hurt more. As long as it isn’t more than a drop here or there that is…
Turning computer off, lol
That dolly is going to help alot with this case.
I didn’t mean it ws completely urine s&m, it had the odor of urine.
LOL Steph!
That syringe was a disposable pack.
CT, yea you said odor!
i can curious about the 13 or 17 hairs Doca Lee found in that car! Wonder who he compared them too!
Hi CT,
Thank you for clearing that up for me. Like I said earlier, all of this technical stuff gives me a headache. I’ll take another look at it in the morning when rested.
Have a good night everyone! :sleeping:
Mark Fuzman said that there was ham in the ham thingy, but everything I have read said it was empty, who did he get his info from, the drama team?
Night Smoke! I am ready too! I have been reading off and on, and there is alot of graphs that are null to me!
I wonder if G&C will be flapping their yappers after this latest round of docs.
Probably not gig
I don’t think so either. I think she thinks she can win and walk, but she sure will win, and get the needle. I guess she can’t say much after, she will get exactly what she gave Caylee! The needle!
Yes, I wish HLN would get rid of Joy too. I never watch the “View” because I can’t tolerate her dumb mouth. Mark Klas & Mike would be excellent in NG’s place, she has also gotten to me. I never watch her anymore unless I come on here & see that she had something on the Anthony’s then I catch her next show (I get it 4 times a night here). It seems that JVM is taking acting lessons from NG, she is getting pretty mouthy. What is with these big mouth women, Joy, Nancy & Jane??? And notice, they are all on HLN!!!!! Also, Mike Galanos (sp) is really pleasant & informative. HLN= get rid of your obnoxious women!!!
Hi Mary. You still here. I just woke up.
It’s 7 a.m. here, and I have fresh coffee if anyone is up yet.
It’s 7am here too & I’m just going to bed. However, your coffee smells good Muesli.
Hi mary. I saw you some hrs. ago. Woke at 2 a.m. and still up. It’s going to be a difficult day without sleep as I have visitors coming in.
I’ve been up all night, could’nt sleep. So, hopefully I can now, soon it will be daylight. I will try to catch up with you later on today. Have a good day, you may need a nap??
Have a nice sleep, Mary. No time for nap today.
Hi Muesli and Mary… I found something and was wondering if you happen to know what they may be talking about Page 22 first entry…I can’t read their writing very well and only scan it. But, I believe they say they found latent prints.
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21540138.pdf
BTW…I don’t know on what they found them or whos
Hi stephanie. Left for a bit. I’ll check out your link. Oh, and good morning to you.
Stephanie, I can’t find a page 22. Which subject is it under?
Good morning everyone.. Probably won’t be here long.. Hubby is up already.. Thought he may sleep in today.. *L*
You are right steph.. It DOES say OCSO lifted latent prints.. I’m trying to make out the rest of it.. WHOO HOO!!
Right, justme, I just saw that. But it doesn’t say from where they lifted the latent prints. It does say that they discussed it and decided not to release it yet, as far as I could interpret it.
GM you two…I can’t make out the writing very well either.
Muesli…It is one of the hand written pages. Also if you go up on the left margin you see a couple icons…one being a paper…there also might be an arrow. Click right there and it opens up the pages and you can do down to page 22
The file has things from the home and from where Caylee’s remains were found…Just can’t figure out which piece they are talking about
Here’s what I’m making out on it.. See if you all can make out the ones I can’t.. Don’t know if it would make a difference or not though..
Telcall w/SA Savage & IA Redmond-add’l items to be submitted 3/5/09 to include swabs that OCSO collected. OCSO did lift latent prints & then finished (can’t make out) them so items will not be submitted for (can’t make out) as previously discussed. Also submitting pieces of poss duct tape from scene- (can’t make out) info provided-doesn’t appear to be similar to tape from remains, but wants lab to confirm.
That is what I am getting, but in the first can’t make out I think it is processing…they finished processing. I am looking up and down around that sheet to try and figure out which piece of evidence they may be talking about
Well, this is the entry right before that, so maybe it’s the tape?? Although the dates are different, the documents are in numerical order.. (Handwritten numbers on bottom of each page)
Since LPU report already went out w/specimens Q316 & Q317=tape- did not address changing description. (See notes & report)
Steph.. If you think about it, it just about has to be the tape.. Look at the report following the note you referred to.. The first 7 items were swabs that were done, probably for chemicals/blood… Swabs wouldn’t contain fingerprints, IMO.. The next few items could.. The piece of stone, doubtful.. The fabric, doubtful, but the tape, real good possibility.. I HOPE!!
I had a print out on what all the evidence was numbered and have no clue what I did with it.
I keep hoping it is the tape, but which tape…at home or the scene? Plus they have the gas tanks in there which I would be surprised if no prints were found on them from any of the Anthonys…I wish it would at least give us a clue instead of additional items…I started looking for what maybe wasn’t submitted, but too difficult because there are so many
Justme…That is also what I thought looking at swabs with are for chemical/dna tests…not the stone or fabric either and so what else but the tape. But, like I said above maybe it is the gas cans
Justme…I wish this was the docs with the syringe info…that would mean game set match
I made out some more of it.. Here it is with the new things added:
Telcall w/SA Savage & IA Redmond-add’l items to be submitted 3/5/09 to include swabs that OCSO collected. OCSO did lift latent prints & then finished PROC’ING (probably processing as steph said) them so items will not be submitted for LPoU (Latent Prints Unit) as previously discussed. Also submitting pieces of poss duct tape from scene- UPON info provided-doesn’t appear to be similar to tape from remains, but wants lab to confirm.
I hate to leave…But I need to get the leaves done this morning…Have a good day if I you aren’t here when I get back
Justme…lets hope it is some of the tape they found at the scene…preferably the tape covering Caylee’s mouth
Q316 &317 are two pieces of tape.. Q318 is one LONG piece of tape.. Just about has to be the tape from Caylee doesn’t it?? It WAS submitted to LPU on 3/5/09..
Cya later steph.. Don’t work too hard..
With the tape stuff, we can at least hope can’t we?? We need the next set of documents.. Mikka, get on that will ya??
I am hoping Justme…That would be so perfect.
I am really leaving now…no more hitting refresh, lol.
Steph.. Don’t leave right yet.. Wait for just a minute, please!!
Awww.. C’mon.. I need to ask you one thing.. Or Muesli, if you’re still here.. Where can I find the page with the fingerprint on it.. The one where there’s nothing else attached.. Only the fingerprint!!
Justme…Came in for a light…what’s up??
I am going to go blow all the leaves from the patio…I will come check when I am done
Chit.. Missed you Steph.. Was just wanting to find the page with the lone fingerprint on it.. Was just wondering where it fit in with the pages of the documents just released.. You know, as in hand written numbered pages.. Probably a long shot though..
Ah… Never mind.. Just looked. All the pages just released are in sequence.. No numbers missing in between.. Dangit.. I was hoping.. Oh well..
just me, I’m back again
I remember that finger print. Now, I have to remember which doc dump it was from. I’ll try to find it. It was so strange. Almost like a tease.
Thanks Humble and Steph and everyone for the doc links!!!!
I’m still hoping Biaz and Co. will give a statement regarding this latest doc dump. Their statements are always good for a laugh.
I would love to have the dna results from all the things the Anthony’s told LE and FBI that Casey shared with the nanny, i.e., diaper bags, etc.. They are looking for prints and dna from someone other than the Anthony family.
You know, even if (God forbid) Casey got out of jail for this, can you imagine the non-life that she would have outside. No education, no money, no future, no job, no friends, always scorned. And, the icing on the cake, Cindy would be stuck with her again. Now, that would be a proper punishment for Cindy for all the lies and covering up she did.
Oh, poor baby is upset. If this is true, it makes us all so sad for her
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-casey-anthony-is-outraged-by-play-tot-mom-tabloid-says-.html
Hehehehe.. I have a message for Casey..
“AWWWWW.. SUCK IT UP JELLY BELLY”..
I would think at this point, with all the evidence that is coming out, Casey feels safer in her little “dorm” room than at home, alone with Cindy. Now, that is scary!
Good morning!
Thanks Muesli! That is why the play is done over is Australia, she can’t get any of the money!
And, next time the drama queens, G&C, want to play suicide, I’m sure that between all of us here we have enough left over meds we could make available to them. I would even contribute a 1.75 ltr. bottle of vodka to wash them down. I am so sick of their theatrics.
Good morning humble. Boy, it seems that no matter what happens in this case, it always comes down to “money”.
Yesterday morning it was incredible how many were here at around 6 a.m.. It was nice not to be here alone.
Muesli. it is all about money!
I won’t have any time today to be here as my Swiss guests arrive around 11 a.m. till Tues morning. A cold lunch is ready, their rooms are ready, dog & cat hair vacuumed. Sometimes it seems I am running a hotel here.
I’ll sneak my laptop into the bathroom from time to time to see what you all are up to. I can hardly wait to hear Biaz and Co.’s response to the doc dump.
New post:
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2009/11/08/chit-chat-08nov2009/
I’ll copy your post with the link Mues!