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The defence may seriously be trying to talk casey into something,, because, there is no way the, I left her with the nanny story will work, nor will the blanchard park, nanny and her sister knocked me down and took caylee….. the framing of jessie, amy, ricardo, or tony as code for nanny,are impossible defences too.. so, what has she got??? I mean, seriously, this is what they are looking at ,, no options!!! and to switch to a stranger took her at this point will be laughable to a jury .
i agree max , the stranger did it is just down right stupid ! i also think casey won’t take a plea deal , that would be her having to admit she did it , i just don’t see her doing that
I’ll go start the beans and rice, brb…
does the fact that the results from the syringe, and bottle with urine, and bottle with chloroform are released to the defence MEAN,, that these items are in fact part of this crime scene????? surely, they wouldnt include items that are NOT related to caylee, casey in any way, would they?????? surely, those items would be discarded as just trash at the crime scene… and not sent to distract the defence or the public… ?????
but, what can the defence say or do to refute this stuff???? they have to have something to say, dont they???? and especially, if she cant get on stand to tell her new or old story…I guess she will just sit there like a stump and let herself be found guilty and hold her head up, like we all (the whole world) just did not listen to her words and clues….. so, she is martyred??? youre probably right, and anyway it will just be lwop,, since lyon can probably get the sentencing phase to drop dp….
i agree , but either way dp or if she gets lwop , i think she is dead then too . bertha and the girl gang don’t like baby killers , someone will get her like they did jeff dahmer i bet . since they have nothing to go on , i guess they will have to stick with a stranger did it … what a long drawn out piece of bs story that will be to listen to
since THERE WERE UNDOUBTLY human fluids in trunk liner,spare tire cover, etc and it’s origins are obviously the blout body decomp, confirmd by odor,etc they DID extract dna from it, right?
the allells might not permit full match due to tamper (cleaning) but they can say “it’s human”,right?
(I would like to hear KC say, “I did not kill her!just ussuslly used the trunk as resting room…”
good idea humble , can’t wait to hear of the excuse for chloroform , urine and testosterone in the gatoraid bottle ..oh and those darn coffin flies , blow flies , etc
humble
here’s what i mentioned the other day…without the avatars on the side bar is rather difficult to find “who said what, when & where!!!”LOL
…at leat for my brain capacity
’cause if the presence of the child in trunk is established…so much for “the mother of the year award”, and deductions from then on, will be undisputable! dont u think?
humble isn’t chloroform related to chlorine in some way , something like that , or if you mix something , i know i read that somewhere but i’m not sure
Whoops Humble! Boo Boo. I actually quoted you “liar, liar, pants on fire” in one of my writings, I dn’t know which one, I schedule them out days in advance because I am not here during the week
from a presence of child body in a trunk (either alive & peeing with panic) or dead, tossed aside…the rest of the details around it will only add to the jury, disgust & more disgust, imo
ct
but doesnt the percentil (of chlorof) in the hair mass establishes that rather than just ext contact, it was processed by body? (ie in answer to the swimming thaeory)
Yep and way back when we thought maybe it was an accident, but couldn’t figure out why she didn’t report it….now we know why, they would have found a needle hole on her and would find chloroform plus testosterone in her!
for instance, when carlota is using the fat as energy instead of sugar, I know it cause her body produces ACETONE during the fat processing (/whitch comes out in her urine)
“Omnadren” is the brand name for a blend of four testosterone esters: testosterone propionate
(C3H6O2), testosterone phenylpropionate (C9H10O2), testosterone isocaproate (C6H12O2),
and testosterone decanoate (C10H20O2). In the past, Omnadren consisted of a blend of different esters, but now is essentially the same formula as Sustanon, mentioned above. It features both fast-acting and slow-acting esters,
and can be injected anywhere from once every week to once every four weeks.
These are all of the testosterone that was detected.
you know, nowadays they can test hair with rather accurate precision to ref for toxicology (thats why Britney shaved her hair in the 1st place, during custody batle!!!) HOW COME with such a fair amount of hair stuck in the duct tape, they cannot extract the childs “toxicology diary” 6 months is NOT that long!!!
I dont get it..
You all are good with all this chemistry.. I am lost, but,, I can see ONE thing from you alls research on this evidence…. we can definitely rule out accident.. no wonder the dp is being asked….
Well, it could have been someones or she could have stole it from Cindy’s place of work! one never knows with casey, she would do anything, any where, anyhow!
i agree max , it just shows i think , that it was planned , and i wouldn’t put it past her to then try and do the same to her good ole parents that she loved so dearly
Chlry, neither would I. I think they might have been next on the injection list!
I am still very curious about the little out bursts Caylee had while she was coloring and they would just let her cry and scream. i think it had something to do with what Casey was doing to her, but of course the stupid nurse impersonator was too stupid to see anything! She needs that license trashed!
after this is over and the funds & trial finish…Cindy will visit KC in jail every day, if possible to remind her what a useless bit .. she is & how she destryed her life &career!!!!now, it’s too soon, she ‘s still amazed with the newly gained fame and takes it as a refreshing bonus
I think that she still used chloroform, true…but not with that needle. That needle is there to throw people off IMO. The bottle had a lot of different compounds in it, I’ve written a piece on it too….the syringe had different compounds in it too ~ But I have a feeling that syringe came from Tony and when she was getting rid of things in the car (including cleaning supplies) she threw that syringe in the bottle with the other crap
other thing I DONT GET is:
since she was using Tony’s & Annies cars during “odor birth” and eventually it lead her to toss body aside as quik & near as possible…Why they dont look for transfer in those cars (is a LOCKARD basic principle in forensics!!!)(trace, fibers,atc)
#2 did they perform toxicology testing on KC’s hair, blood urine?where’s that???(i know they took prints and dna sample while in jail)
she’ll say she used it on herself, not child
The syringe was once in that trunk of the car though. But she didn’t use it on Caylee. She killed her with Chloroform, but by allowing the “fumes” if you will, into the trunk. She would not go through more effort in killing her if there is an easier way “in her opinion” to do it.
That very well could be CT.
I think I am still on the side that she got that she injected her and than wrapped the duct tape around her mouth. At least I pray that came second
Humble
I think cindy Off the record is a different person. And Now with Caylee gone, she no longer has the need to please her and keep her happy under her roof!
she’ll blame her misfortune on someone!
What was that drug they said she did with the roommate…does anyone remember. I know pot stays in your blood stream for 30 days or at least used to…not that I have ever been drug tested, but have had friends that have.
Could also have been as a result from the decomposition activity that took place. It’s quite possible though that the doll could have come into contact with a towel or rag that WF used as well.
im not sure if she injected her or not , i’m hoping she just put something over her mouth , and used too much , put her in the trunk out cold and she died from heat , but then i change my mind daily
Steph, it depends on what type of drug test it is. Blood/urine/hair. Different drugs remain in the system or can be detected for longer periods of time if given a blood/hair test vice urine test.
This, also for Chloroform (Wikipedia):
The haloform reaction can also occur inadvertently in domestic settings.
Sodium hypochlorite solution (chlorine bleach) mixed with common household liquids
such as acetone, butanone, ethanol, or isopropyl alcohol may produce some chloroform,
in addition to other compounds such as chloroacetone, or dichloroacetone.
ct
u think she duct taped her ,placed her alive with chlorof stink in closed trunk (maybe to just knock her off?) and seringe came in tonys trash, used on scene only as instrument of picking chlorof?
Filipa, then she needs to stop lying for her! Cindy will never be mean to Casey! I also do not believe she will ever confront her about murdering Caylee.
Well, I would like to see the doll in a better picture, seems there was a drop or 2 not a big area on the doll!
hi stephanie,, I go to check on dinner and say a few words to my husband and come back to soooo much reading before I am caught up again….
whatever she did and however she did it,,, it was not an accidental drowning… or even an accidental death where child was left in locked car while she was shopping… which has been done here in town…
you know i always thought that cindy not only washed the clothes , but also the doll and backpack etc , then put it back in the car maybe , i mean why go and buy a new washer and dryer , she must have washed more then those pants . i know she said she wiped the doll clean , but with all her half truths i think she had them in her old washer
humble
i think when the point of “no more money will be made”, the bad name of both her & G is irrevocable in public eye, daughter comdemn & realizing her toy is gone and she has NOTHING, will do the trick
i know steph , i have put alot of things in the wash that could have ruined the washer , i think if in a hurry , panic , cover up mode she would , but then again why not throw the stuff in the trash , strange when you think about it
It is Chlry…If there is something I can’t wash to get the smell out I will just toss it. Not that we have things around the house that has bad odors, lol. But, when the kids were young and would leave something or whatever…You all with kids know what I mean, lol.
i hear you steph , i wonder if they ever located that old washer and dryer , i guess it would be at the dump , or maybe george drove it somewhere to never be seen again , im sure le and fbi wanted to look deep into the washer and dryer and do major testing
good point chlry, why didnt she just throw the pants and etc away???? she even scrubbed the boots.. boots in june/july in orlando?????? anyway.. she did… it is strange, and I think casey didnt guard against evidence or fingerprints cause she didnt think in her wildest dreams , anyone would doubt WHATEVER explanation she gave about caylee…..
steph, rice and beans… but, even that is a stretch for me..lol and has to be hovered over…
Chlry, I keep wondering if we will see something about the washer and dryer in the docs. It’s never been mentioned. Maybe we should ask Kathie B about that.
That is too funny Humble…I was on the last thread waiting and couldn’t believe all the conversation just stopped. Than one time hitting refresh I saw you all had moved to the new thread, lol
The more and more I think about it…the more I don’t think Caylee was in the trunk when they went to block buster that night…I think she was in the back yard. I also still think the flurry of calls she was making when leaving the house to the family had something to do with her plan…I just don’t know what
hi marsha , yeah strange never heard a thing about the w and d , maybe we will
steph i agree , i think she had to be in that yard , maybe just for the night , a storing place because she had plans with toni later , i can’t wait to hear at trial about what they say about the hot spots the dogs hit on
Steph, she might have been in that backyard, this has to be why the dogs hit back there. Also She had been at the house enough times that maybe she did put her in the trunk when the car was backed up to the garage like she never has done before!
Another nurse impersonator comment: Caylee use to pee in the play house, that is why the dogs hit there! Yea, we know they don’t hit on pee. She needs that license revoked, shredded, tore up…………
hi everyone.. I kept hitting refresh not believing everyone was off.. just now found u.. but I am gonna go walk.. just trying to follow thru with what I say I am gonna do.. bb soon..
yes humble , and all that hard work george did to the yard back in july , all that sweat just dripped off him through out that yard and all over the new brick work they laid , hmm , dogs don’t hit on that either
sooo true humble,, the cadaver dogs do not hit on live person pee….. if you pee, you are alive…. she does need her nursing license pulled ,,, permanently… maybe it has been, and she has exhausted unemployment and is not onto disability….
Maxi, there are many like them out there! We just haven’t had the opportunity to see them on tv and act like dorks! Maybe they need to start a group for impersonating degrees!
lol max . i know , maybe one or two nuts in a family , but nooooooo , all four are nuts ! george and cindy should have stayed childless and not spawned
CYNTHIA MARIE PLESEA ANTHONY
LICENSE NUMBER: RN2087282
Profession
REGISTERED NURSE
License/Activity Status
CLEAR/ACTIVEClick here for more information
License Expiration Date
4/30/2011
License Original Issue Date
02/12/1990
Discipline on File
NO
Continuing Education Audit
NO
4 / 11 , hmm , i wonder if she will be mentally stable by then , cause when your crazy your crazy and that doesn’t go away . i would be in constant fear if she was my nurse lol
I think they were! One just HAD a paying job, the other lived off everyone else! I really need to write to FL and tell them they need to look into her state of mind and if she deserves to ever be a Nurse (impersonator) in FL again!
do you believe that humble ? i don’t for one minute , after readinf the states depo of lee , he knew around the 3 or 4th month , if he did , well then her own mother did as well , i can see mamma boy lee tattling on casey and telling mommy about it
I don’t believe it for one minute! Cindy is and was afraid that Casey will blow up on them so they never confronted her, and look where she is now. Casey has many issue and anger is one of them, you can tell in her me, me me video from jail!
you go and do that humble please , because one day i may need a nurse down here , and i don’t want her to be one of them lol
as far as that goes about cindy being the worker , i bet she was proud of her son and made it known what a good job he has done with his life , but at the same time that pointed out what losers both george and casey were , seems she was a bit like her father when it came to that
yep , lost control of their daughter long ago , too much out of them to fight and argue with her , i bet even the little things would be a big argument when it came to casey and her faults
Chlry, I will be sending a CD to the state and tell them to watch the video…it will show how good of a nurse she really is……..
Did he go to college, I can’t remember, but he worked and lived on his own. Casey lived with C&G, had a child, stole from everyone! yea, I think her and George are 2 peas in a pod.
I do think Casey is very much like George…But, I believe this world she lived in she learned how to from Cindy. When things weren’t the way you liked them…lie lie lie. I think that comes straight from Cindy.
i don’t think he did go to college , but i may be wrong
steph i think it came from both c and g , i mean look at all that trouble g got into with money , i’m sure he came up with something to tell cindy , and the way he is in and out of jobs for years , he just sound like a mess , no wonder she probably lost all respect for him long ago
I don’t think she ever had any respect for him or her kids…I think George was easy to control and that is why she married him. Many woman controlling like Cindy look for pansies so they can control them….How can you have respect for anyone you can control
I worked for this couple that the wife was real controlling and he just went along with whatever she said. I can’t remember what he did in the office, but it wasn’t anything of any real importance. He was a totally pansy and she was a totally biotch.
I had never seen anything like that before…My grandparents are like that, but I didn’t know them growing up too much. I don’t see my old boss lying the way Cindy does to keep that perfect image. Now my grandma I totally see it and can see her giving Cindy a run for her money…That doesn’t sound nice, but it is the way it is.
You know I am still really surprised that Holly the neighbor is still in their lives. How could she want the Anthony’s or Milstead’s around her kids…That really boggles my mind
Madm…I did, but again I don’t see her lying the way CIndy lied…She was full of her self and very controlling. But, I don’t think she would have done the things Cindy has done.
That is right I forgot about that grandma…but I bet she doesn’t have such angel of children like Cindy and my grandma do, lol.
That was pretty funny she let Cindy have it…Than why did you say it smelled like a dead body, lol.
Did you all get to see the video we put up yesterday with Kathi asking Lyons if her students did her motions?? LMBO
LOL Steph! Yea Cindy has tube sock boy and mother of the year! lol
Shirley has SINdy! Plus other’s but they seem to have their heads on their shoulders straight!
Could you see Cindy going after Lee’s and Casey’s friends when they were little being a bully? I totally can see that…I wonder how many of the families remained close to them through the years. I know some said their families did things together. But, I wonder really how much and how close they really were.
lmao steph , i can see cindy , running out the door with smoke coming from her nostrils lol , i bet she told those kids next time you’ll have to deal with me ! she seems like the type that would fight with other parents too , it wasn’t my kids , their perfect , that type of thing
I think Cindy thought both of her kids were angels. But, I don’t think it lasted with Casey. I really believe when Casey was much younger a competition started between them. I don’t know if it was before that or after but at some point Casey didn’t measure up…and Cindy let her know it in not a very nice way. That argument or I should say when Cindy went off on Jesse just humiliating Casey…That this was far from the first time and that it started many years ago. I believe it was a way to keep Casey in her place and allow Cindy to continue to feel superior to her. jmho
I do think she was probably the baby of the family when she was little. But, I think the only reason she controls them in a sense…Cindy’s need to have the perfect image.
somewhere in time something happened in that family , i don’t know what and when , but there was fear of casey , just not wanting do deal with a difficult kid i think . it was easier to ignore , brush under the rug then to try and punish her
I think maybe Lee did get attention, but maybe not the same amount as Casey. Or maybe the same amount before Caylee was ever born…i don’t know. But, I don’t think he really liked to be involved with his family, lol.
Steph, well he did say when Casey was in trouble, if you can call it that, he would shut the door. Of course you can’t tell me he didn’t hear anything!
i think lee got maybe the proper attention he should have , they had control over him , he was punished i bet when he should have been . forget what they said how they parented , about talking to the kids like adults . i think they had control over lee and non with casey , they lost control and it was to much an effort to get back
Listening to Lee’s depo…he jumped when mom wanted him to. George did the same thing when he wanted to find out what was going on with Casey…Cindy told him to leave it and he did. IMO, it was Cindy’s call for everything…otherwise they would have done something a long time ago, but had to have permission from Cindy first.
Steph, BOY Geo jumped when told to and when he found out about the JOB that Casey didn’t have, They confronted her and she lied, and that was then end. Geo was led by the, by the…you know what I mean!
Usually people like Cindy that is very competitive with their females are much nicer to their boys than they are their girls…i don’t know if Cindy was, but usually they are. The one reason I could see her not being in the norm with others like this…her need for the perfect family. That when he didn’t do as well as she felt he should…she may have let him know it.
i agree steph , cindy had the upper hand in everything , i’m sure she used the term bread winner , and what would you all do without me to everyone in that family
humble , maybe not discipline often , but they had to at some point i would hope , but maybe not , maybe they were just worried about themselves too much
I don’t think we ever found out who that man was Nanna, but my gosh Larry would have been right over their in that guys face. I still see Cindy rubbing her face all over in Rob’s chest…and it is just gross
humble i see it with my sister and her son all the time , he has add and other problems but they won’t go get help , probably because they don’t want to admit there is something big wrong . my niece is the perfect kid , but she is the one they discipline , the son forget , because there is always a fight to put up with when it comes to everything , i can see the a’s being that way when it came to casey, they gave her power by ignoring it in a way , like my sister is doing with her son .. in the end the kid wins , or that is what they think anyway
Are you sure it isn’t RG? Sure looks like him, let me find the photo.
Chlry, that is too bad. if he doesn’t get help, he will be miserable all his life, not to mention make everyone else miserable! Well in Casey’s case she won alright, a free needle in the arm!
Humble…When I was exchanging messages with him one time…I did ask about it. By his tone he didn’t appreciate that people still thought it was him, lol.
i agree humble , my mom and i tell her all the time , he will turn into a monster , she says she will but then nothing , i say too late , should have been done when he was 8 or ten , he will be 18 in june
it wasn’t rg , was it a person from tes , or something like that , this will drive me nuts lol
Chlry…there is hope for him. We have a friend that their son didn’t get on meds until he was about 21…on his own. He is doing really good now, but they did go through a lot before he was on meds. At the same time it was his dad that kept saying their isn’t anything wrong with him and that is why he was never put on anything.
it could be that steph , in my sisters case though , both parents are in denial and like to say it’s just the add , or boys will be boys from the dad , but to tell you the truth both parents were never on the same page , regret will happen when something really bad happens , by then it’s too late , like with casey . i see my nephew doing worse things daily and nothing happens by the parents , maybe a little yelling but no real punishment , i tell my sis , whats it goig to take , for your son to wrap a car around a tree ! talking to parents of kids like this is a waste , they don’t really want to hear it because it reflects on them
Are friend was also disciplined much harder than his older and younger brother because of his add. Dad decided he was just a problem child. It didn’t help that he wasn’t the oldest…the name sake or the baby of the family. It was sad and he became my fav when they were young, lol.
he will is right humble , he barely has friends because of the way he treats people , it will effect jobs , friends and forget about having a relationship with a woman
Chlry, it will eventually happen, and it will be sad. Honestly who cares if anything reflects the parent, as long as the kid get helps. Sounds like they are worried about themselves and not him.
Chlry…it will cause all of those problems. Our friend’s son is doing good and I wish I could remember what sent him in to get help, but it was him not his parents.
it does humble , with new things going on in my sisters home it really is starting to remind me of the a’s and how all went wrong with casey , very similar
first???
The defence may seriously be trying to talk casey into something,, because, there is no way the, I left her with the nanny story will work, nor will the blanchard park, nanny and her sister knocked me down and took caylee….. the framing of jessie, amy, ricardo, or tony as code for nanny,are impossible defences too.. so, what has she got??? I mean, seriously, this is what they are looking at ,, no options!!! and to switch to a stranger took her at this point will be laughable to a jury .
i agree max , the stranger did it is just down right stupid ! i also think casey won’t take a plea deal , that would be her having to admit she did it , i just don’t see her doing that
I’ll go start the beans and rice, brb…
does the fact that the results from the syringe, and bottle with urine, and bottle with chloroform are released to the defence MEAN,, that these items are in fact part of this crime scene????? surely, they wouldnt include items that are NOT related to caylee, casey in any way, would they?????? surely, those items would be discarded as just trash at the crime scene… and not sent to distract the defence or the public… ?????
but, what can the defence say or do to refute this stuff???? they have to have something to say, dont they???? and especially, if she cant get on stand to tell her new or old story…I guess she will just sit there like a stump and let herself be found guilty and hold her head up, like we all (the whole world) just did not listen to her words and clues….. so, she is martyred??? youre probably right, and anyway it will just be lwop,, since lyon can probably get the sentencing phase to drop dp….
sounds yummy max , pizza for us tonight lol
i think those are parts of the crime scene , and what they have , trash or whatever it is… they got her !! woo hoo
top five-ish?
i agree , but either way dp or if she gets lwop , i think she is dead then too . bertha and the girl gang don’t like baby killers , someone will get her like they did jeff dahmer i bet . since they have nothing to go on , i guess they will have to stick with a stranger did it … what a long drawn out piece of bs story that will be to listen to
thanx Humble!!! I own you one!If you ever come here, I’LL SHOW YOU THE WAY!
how is the rest of the crew?
the stranger!!!!! how silly
hey gigwails,, I wondered where you went…
Hi Filipa, I will also send you the link to the main page so you will always be at the first page!
hi humble and filipa
Hi ya MadMaxi, Filipa, Chlry and Gig!
Oh the joys of the last doc dump. I think I will make up some excuses for Cindy to use!
can anyone answer me the following, please:
since THERE WERE UNDOUBTLY human fluids in trunk liner,spare tire cover, etc and it’s origins are obviously the blout body decomp, confirmd by odor,etc they DID extract dna from it, right?
the allells might not permit full match due to tamper (cleaning) but they can say “it’s human”,right?
(I would like to hear KC say, “I did not kill her!just ussuslly used the trunk as resting room…”
good idea humble , can’t wait to hear of the excuse for chloroform , urine and testosterone in the gatoraid bottle ..oh and those darn coffin flies , blow flies , etc
humble
here’s what i mentioned the other day…without the avatars on the side bar is rather difficult to find “who said what, when & where!!!”LOL
…at leat for my brain capacity
i’m not sure filipa , but if there is urine in all that i think they can tell that is human , just guessing
Sorry Filipa…I will add the comments on the side, I didn’t expect to be here this long, but might be here for ever and ever and ever and ever…………..
As for the question, they did extract DNA, I believe!
’cause if the presence of the child in trunk is established…so much for “the mother of the year award”, and deductions from then on, will be undisputable! dont u think?
Cheers! thanx, it helps more than you can imagine!
humble gave me a lift, or I would not get here!!
i mean the stains, can provide at least “human dna”(presence)?
there’s nothing for her to say ,once that is on the table. end of story.the more details we add, more cruel it’s look, from there..
Comments are on the side. When in doubt, just lick on the Humbleopinion Weblog at the top. The latest post will be immediately underneath it!
Also they got chloroform out of that trunk and claimed it to be from the pool, now we know it didn’t! There was decomp also on Caylee’s doll!
she’ll say came from pull ups…IT HAS TO BE DNA either from direct contact (epitelials) or decomp fluids
Hey all, here for a short time.
Hi ya CT!
humble
the decomp precess provids chloroform in itself, BUT NOT IN THOSE PROPORTIONS!!!outstanding from other also natural produced compounds
Humble! Hugs! Have you seen my posts that I’ve written? I’ve gotten into detail on a lot of the compounds found
hi ct !!
humble isn’t chloroform related to chlorine in some way , something like that , or if you mix something , i know i read that somewhere but i’m not sure
thank God the smell did not allow Cindy to get as much involved in the cleaning as she wished…it saved the day, for justice to be made!
Yes chlry it is.
Hi CT!b i havent seen a thing I was lost! where’s that?
Filipa, The defense said the chloroform in the trunk was from the pool. this is why many thought she had drowned in the pool.
CT, I haven’t been there yet today, I always read it, though. Been working on the boo boo I did to the other site!
Yea, Chlry, remember everyone was thinking she died in the pool and that is why the chloroform compounds were there, it was supposedly from a diaper….
CHCL3 is Chloroform
Used by heating a mixture of chlorine and chloromethane or methane
Whoops Humble! Boo Boo. I actually quoted you “liar, liar, pants on fire” in one of my writings, I dn’t know which one, I schedule them out days in advance because I am not here during the week
Hi humble!
from a presence of child body in a trunk (either alive & peeing with panic) or dead, tossed aside…the rest of the details around it will only add to the jury, disgust & more disgust, imo
LOL CT! That is my favorite saying along with thingy…everything is a thingy!
Hi ya Gig!
;) Humble
thank you ct , i thought so
yeah i do remember that humble , it makes sense , the pull up would be saturated with the pool water
ct
but doesnt the percentil (of chlorof) in the hair mass establishes that rather than just ext contact, it was processed by body? (ie in answer to the swimming thaeory)
Yep and way back when we thought maybe it was an accident, but couldn’t figure out why she didn’t report it….now we know why, they would have found a needle hole on her and would find chloroform plus testosterone in her!
hi humble , falipa, and ct-j4c
I think so Filipa.
Hi mad
for instance, when carlota is using the fat as energy instead of sugar, I know it cause her body produces ACETONE during the fat processing (/whitch comes out in her urine)
when body uses sugar theres no acetone production
As for the testosterone. Maybe we can find out if one of her friends was taking: “Omnadren”
i test her urine daily, besides her blood, to know if the metabolism is functioning properly. That’s the way to check it
“Omnadren” is the brand name for a blend of four testosterone esters: testosterone propionate
(C3H6O2), testosterone phenylpropionate (C9H10O2), testosterone isocaproate (C6H12O2),
and testosterone decanoate (C10H20O2). In the past, Omnadren consisted of a blend of different esters, but now is essentially the same formula as Sustanon, mentioned above. It features both fast-acting and slow-acting esters,
and can be injected anywhere from once every week to once every four weeks.
These are all of the testosterone that was detected.
yeah ct , a friend , lee or maybe cindy , i was really surprised to read that
you know, nowadays they can test hair with rather accurate precision to ref for toxicology (thats why Britney shaved her hair in the 1st place, during custody batle!!!) HOW COME with such a fair amount of hair stuck in the duct tape, they cannot extract the childs “toxicology diary” 6 months is NOT that long!!!
I dont get it..
You all are good with all this chemistry.. I am lost, but,, I can see ONE thing from you alls research on this evidence…. we can definitely rule out accident.. no wonder the dp is being asked….
Well, it could have been someones or she could have stole it from Cindy’s place of work! one never knows with casey, she would do anything, any where, anyhow!
hey CT
if she complained about the child being hiper, why inject her with that? i dont get it????do u know? why?what is the result she aimed doing so?
i agree max , it just shows i think , that it was planned , and i wouldn’t put it past her to then try and do the same to her good ole parents that she loved so dearly
Filipa, who knows!
Maxi, yea i am not good at chemistry either! But we do know it wasn’t an accident! And the reason she didn’t call 911.
Filipa, what do you mean? Inject her with what?
Chlry, neither would I. I think they might have been next on the injection list!
I am still very curious about the little out bursts Caylee had while she was coloring and they would just let her cry and scream. i think it had something to do with what Casey was doing to her, but of course the stupid nurse impersonator was too stupid to see anything! She needs that license trashed!
Hello Everyone…
nurse impersonator lol , love it !!
Filipa, she injected her to kill her.
LMFAO “Nurse Impersonator” OMG, Humble, that gives me such a good idea for a piece to write. LMFAO LMFAO
I have a different theory and I don’t think she injected her. Sorry :woot:
Hi ya Steph!
That is so funny isn’t Chlry, lmbo
after this is over and the funds & trial finish…Cindy will visit KC in jail every day, if possible to remind her what a useless bit .. she is & how she destryed her life &career!!!!now, it’s too soon, she ‘s still amazed with the newly gained fame and takes it as a refreshing bonus
Ya know I was reading something, and they said that injecting into the gums is also the latest craz.
CT
werent u saying the needle was used in child?
Filipa, Cindy will never say that to her.
CT…What do you think she did?
Nope. I was just stating what was found in the residue in the needle.
hi steph
Hi Humble, Chlry, Ct, Filipa, Madm, Gigs and anyone I missed
I think that she still used chloroform, true…but not with that needle. That needle is there to throw people off IMO. The bottle had a lot of different compounds in it, I’ve written a piece on it too….the syringe had different compounds in it too ~ But I have a feeling that syringe came from Tony and when she was getting rid of things in the car (including cleaning supplies) she threw that syringe in the bottle with the other crap
i know she is humble , she missed her calling , she needed a career in waste management
she is down right dirty isn’t she ct , so you think toni or his room mate were using hard stuff
other thing I DONT GET is:
since she was using Tony’s & Annies cars during “odor birth” and eventually it lead her to toss body aside as quik & near as possible…Why they dont look for transfer in those cars (is a LOCKARD basic principle in forensics!!!)(trace, fibers,atc)
#2 did they perform toxicology testing on KC’s hair, blood urine?where’s that???(i know they took prints and dna sample while in jail)
she’ll say she used it on herself, not child
The syringe was once in that trunk of the car though. But she didn’t use it on Caylee. She killed her with Chloroform, but by allowing the “fumes” if you will, into the trunk. She would not go through more effort in killing her if there is an easier way “in her opinion” to do it.
I do chlry, for sure.
That very well could be CT.
I think I am still on the side that she got that she injected her and than wrapped the duct tape around her mouth. At least I pray that came second
Filipa, I think they would drug test her prior to being put in jail. I”ve never been (don’t wanna either) but I think it’s a requirement.
CT, I think she did inject her, only because there was some on the doll. When she went to inject she hit the doll also. JMHO!
Chlry,
Too funny!
The only thing is I don’t think she is that great at planning ahead…she is more at the moment.
it’s very possible ct , i can see that , we have still alot more to find out
Yes there were drug testing on Casey. The results were negative for any!
Steph, true! She is like Cindy last minute agenda!
I do believe they drug test them when going in.
I agree Humble
Humble
I think cindy Off the record is a different person. And Now with Caylee gone, she no longer has the need to please her and keep her happy under her roof!
she’ll blame her misfortune on someone!
True humble. Problem I have is that the trunk was so saturated and I’m sure anything in there would have been subject to CHCL3 “reminents” IMO
What was that drug they said she did with the roommate…does anyone remember. I know pot stays in your blood stream for 30 days or at least used to…not that I have ever been drug tested, but have had friends that have.
Doll
Chloroform Residue
Could also have been as a result from the decomposition activity that took place. It’s quite possible though that the doll could have come into contact with a towel or rag that WF used as well.
im not sure if she injected her or not , i’m hoping she just put something over her mouth , and used too much , put her in the trunk out cold and she died from heat , but then i change my mind daily
Steph, it depends on what type of drug test it is. Blood/urine/hair. Different drugs remain in the system or can be detected for longer periods of time if given a blood/hair test vice urine test.
Right…but when you used to take urine samples to test for drugs…pot stated in the blood stream long enough they could detect it in your urine
This, also for Chloroform (Wikipedia):
The haloform reaction can also occur inadvertently in domestic settings.
Sodium hypochlorite solution (chlorine bleach) mixed with common household liquids
such as acetone, butanone, ethanol, or isopropyl alcohol may produce some chloroform,
in addition to other compounds such as chloroacetone, or dichloroacetone.
ct
u think she duct taped her ,placed her alive with chlorof stink in closed trunk (maybe to just knock her off?) and seringe came in tonys trash, used on scene only as instrument of picking chlorof?
steph you can take golden seal and the pot is out really quick , you buy it at health food stores
Yes, steph that is correct.
That is along the lines of what I’m thinking Filipa
Actually, they test for those methods as well Chlry, so they’d know if she used such a product.
Filipa, then she needs to stop lying for her! Cindy will never be mean to Casey! I also do not believe she will ever confront her about murdering Caylee.
Well, I would like to see the doll in a better picture, seems there was a drop or 2 not a big area on the doll!
I would love to see a picture as well humble, it would clear up some confusion
HUMBLE
maybe the doll thing is to make it look like a game? like then heart sticker (to get childs consent?)
better pic that is
CT…So do you think it was an accident…that she was not trying to kill Caylee?
Humble…That is what I thought it was a drop or 2 on the doll
GTG. HUgs.
Steph, I don’t think it was an accident.
I know she was trying to Kill Caylee, but she wanted the most easiest way to do it.
Okay CT…Talk to you later.
…or she soaked the dool to keep the “inhaler” near the target/victim
hi stephanie,, I go to check on dinner and say a few words to my husband and come back to soooo much reading before I am caught up again….
whatever she did and however she did it,,, it was not an accidental drowning… or even an accidental death where child was left in locked car while she was shopping… which has been done here in town…
they do ct , i see , they got wise to that trick
you know i always thought that cindy not only washed the clothes , but also the doll and backpack etc , then put it back in the car maybe , i mean why go and buy a new washer and dryer , she must have washed more then those pants . i know she said she wiped the doll clean , but with all her half truths i think she had them in her old washer
bye ct
humble
i think when the point of “no more money will be made”, the bad name of both her & G is irrevocable in public eye, daughter comdemn & realizing her toy is gone and she has NOTHING, will do the trick
Hi madm…What’s for dinner
Chlry…I would have thrown it all in the washer myself…I bet she did.
i know steph , i have put alot of things in the wash that could have ruined the washer , i think if in a hurry , panic , cover up mode she would , but then again why not throw the stuff in the trash , strange when you think about it
It is Chlry…If there is something I can’t wash to get the smell out I will just toss it. Not that we have things around the house that has bad odors, lol. But, when the kids were young and would leave something or whatever…You all with kids know what I mean, lol.
guys gonna grab a snack & have look at the doc’s before sleep (i’m not even 1/4 way through.
thanx all, see ya!
bb in a few mins
bye filipa
i hear you steph , i wonder if they ever located that old washer and dryer , i guess it would be at the dump , or maybe george drove it somewhere to never be seen again , im sure le and fbi wanted to look deep into the washer and dryer and do major testing
me too , pizza in the oven , bb
um, hello, why didn’t someone tell me I was reading the wrong thread?
good point chlry, why didnt she just throw the pants and etc away???? she even scrubbed the boots.. boots in june/july in orlando?????? anyway.. she did… it is strange, and I think casey didnt guard against evidence or fingerprints cause she didnt think in her wildest dreams , anyone would doubt WHATEVER explanation she gave about caylee…..
steph, rice and beans… but, even that is a stretch for me..lol and has to be hovered over…
Chlry, I keep wondering if we will see something about the washer and dryer in the docs. It’s never been mentioned. Maybe we should ask Kathie B about that.
But Chlry, have you ever washed cloth that smell from Pizza? And then need to go out and get a new washer…oh the coverup the A’s have done!
Hey Maxi, we are grilling chops…can you smell them?
I wonder what the A’s are having…chili and cornbread maybe?
It sounds good Madm and Marsha
Humble…LOL, I was on the wrong thread for a long time wonder why nobody was talking or answering Chlry, lol.
Steph, I went back to check out somethings and found myself going to respond to yesterdays posts.
That is too funny Humble…I was on the last thread waiting and couldn’t believe all the conversation just stopped. Than one time hitting refresh I saw you all had moved to the new thread, lol
The more and more I think about it…the more I don’t think Caylee was in the trunk when they went to block buster that night…I think she was in the back yard. I also still think the flurry of calls she was making when leaving the house to the family had something to do with her plan…I just don’t know what
hi marsha , yeah strange never heard a thing about the w and d , maybe we will
steph i agree , i think she had to be in that yard , maybe just for the night , a storing place because she had plans with toni later , i can’t wait to hear at trial about what they say about the hot spots the dogs hit on
Steph, she might have been in that backyard, this has to be why the dogs hit back there. Also She had been at the house enough times that maybe she did put her in the trunk when the car was backed up to the garage like she never has done before!
Chlry, how was the pizza?
Another nurse impersonator comment: Caylee use to pee in the play house, that is why the dogs hit there! Yea, we know they don’t hit on pee. She needs that license revoked, shredded, tore up…………
hi everyone.. I kept hitting refresh not believing everyone was off.. just now found u.. but I am gonna go walk.. just trying to follow thru with what I say I am gonna do.. bb soon..
Nanna, I added the latest comments to the side! Now you can find us! lol have a good walk!
well humble not burnt lol , it was good but somehow that damn cindy popped in my head , maybe i’ll leave some in my trunk and do a little test
hi nanna , enjoy your walk
When all else fails hit the *Humbleopinion Weblog* at the top, the latest post will be underneath it!
Chlry did you see my comment to you about the washer:
But Chlry, have you ever washed cloth that smell from Pizza? And then need to go out and get a new washer…oh the coverup the A’s have done!
ok.. good!!.. bb.. bookmarked this page so I don’t get lost again…lol bb
yes humble , and all that hard work george did to the yard back in july , all that sweat just dripped off him through out that yard and all over the new brick work they laid , hmm , dogs don’t hit on that either
sooo true humble,, the cadaver dogs do not hit on live person pee….. if you pee, you are alive…. she does need her nursing license pulled ,,, permanently… maybe it has been, and she has exhausted unemployment and is not onto disability….
lol i did humble , lets see if i have to wash something after my pizza stays in the trunk , oh 31 days …not ! cindy is an imbosol
these people are crazy.. I didnt even know people like this existed!!! truly, I did not know there were people like this family…
Chlry, no they don’t! But if you ask Cindy…………………………..
Well, last I looked, she has updated it, or what ever it is called! She needs to have it gone, and work in a dump.
couldn’t she have updated it later when she was out of money and her grieving ( more money ) , or do you have to constantly keep it updated
Maxi, there are many like them out there! We just haven’t had the opportunity to see them on tv and act like dorks! Maybe they need to start a group for impersonating degrees!
lol max . i know , maybe one or two nuts in a family , but nooooooo , all four are nuts ! george and cindy should have stayed childless and not spawned
Chlry, I think every 2 years! or something like that! let me check and get a link for ya!
here is a link to the old site that i wrote about it:
http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/cindy-anthony-nurse-license-expired/
She has re-upped her license, I will check and see when it expires now!
ok i see humble , well one of these days she better get back to impersonating a nurse and being the bread winner instead of their dead grandchild
looks like 5/11 she will need to update it
Oh looky only 2 years:
CYNTHIA MARIE PLESEA ANTHONY
LICENSE NUMBER: RN2087282
Profession
REGISTERED NURSE
License/Activity Status
CLEAR/ACTIVEClick here for more information
License Expiration Date
4/30/2011
License Original Issue Date
02/12/1990
Discipline on File
NO
Continuing Education Audit
NO
Do they not have to take a test or anything to renew their license? Boy would she fail on a pregnancy question!
4 / 11 , hmm , i wonder if she will be mentally stable by then , cause when your crazy your crazy and that doesn’t go away . i would be in constant fear if she was my nurse lol
Chlry, no kidding. She use to work in Peds before! Goodness the poor kids!
lol humble , she would say , well i really can’t tell when one is with child until about the last trimester , somewhere around that seventh month
And up until then she will think they are bloated!
somehow i don’t see her being the sweet , funny loving nurse most are in peds offices , with that face my kids would be out the door in seconds flat
LOL Chlry! I wouldn’t trust her!
I hope Steph isn’t stuck somewhere from yesterday!
omg , yes bloated , just like she was at casey’s age .. geez , seems they were twins that got separated at birth
Now that i think about it, Casey had to tell her she was pregnant!
steph stop living in the past and get over here .. in the here and now would ya !
I think they were! One just HAD a paying job, the other lived off everyone else! I really need to write to FL and tell them they need to look into her state of mind and if she deserves to ever be a Nurse (impersonator) in FL again!
do you believe that humble ? i don’t for one minute , after readinf the states depo of lee , he knew around the 3 or 4th month , if he did , well then her own mother did as well , i can see mamma boy lee tattling on casey and telling mommy about it
I don’t believe it for one minute! Cindy is and was afraid that Casey will blow up on them so they never confronted her, and look where she is now. Casey has many issue and anger is one of them, you can tell in her me, me me video from jail!
you go and do that humble please , because one day i may need a nurse down here , and i don’t want her to be one of them lol
as far as that goes about cindy being the worker , i bet she was proud of her son and made it known what a good job he has done with his life , but at the same time that pointed out what losers both george and casey were , seems she was a bit like her father when it came to that
LOL…I was lurking while I rearrange some furniture.
yep , lost control of their daughter long ago , too much out of them to fight and argue with her , i bet even the little things would be a big argument when it came to casey and her faults
steph can you come over here and help me too lol , i need some of your energy
Chlry, I will be sending a CD to the state and tell them to watch the video…it will show how good of a nurse she really is……..
Did he go to college, I can’t remember, but he worked and lived on his own. Casey lived with C&G, had a child, stole from everyone! yea, I think her and George are 2 peas in a pod.
Chlry…I don’t have that much…It should have been done yesterday, lol.
I do think Casey is very much like George…But, I believe this world she lived in she learned how to from Cindy. When things weren’t the way you liked them…lie lie lie. I think that comes straight from Cindy.
I can’t remember if he did, but if he did it was a semester or two and that was all.
Steph neither can handle a job!
I couldn’t remember about his school.
i don’t think he did go to college , but i may be wrong
steph i think it came from both c and g , i mean look at all that trouble g got into with money , i’m sure he came up with something to tell cindy , and the way he is in and out of jobs for years , he just sound like a mess , no wonder she probably lost all respect for him long ago
bb , bath time , for kids not me lol
Chlry, and he said that was a normal family! hahahahaa I would hate for him to see and met a real normal family!
I don’t think she ever had any respect for him or her kids…I think George was easy to control and that is why she married him. Many woman controlling like Cindy look for pansies so they can control them….How can you have respect for anyone you can control
Did anyone watch Ann Rule to late to say goodbye? It was on LMN last night!
I am not sure if he even did a semester…I am thinking not. I am also thinking he moved out at about 22
I watched Ann Rule on another ID last night…it was about an attorney that killed his x girlfriend
Hurry Back Chlry….
I worked for this couple that the wife was real controlling and he just went along with whatever she said. I can’t remember what he did in the office, but it wasn’t anything of any real importance. He was a totally pansy and she was a totally biotch.
Oh, I watched the one on LMN and am reading the book, of course the book is better than the movie. BUT Rob Lowe is still hot!
LOL Steph. There are many like that out there!
LOL…He is a hottie and a bit older than Dreamy Drew, lol
I had never seen anything like that before…My grandparents are like that, but I didn’t know them growing up too much. I don’t see my old boss lying the way Cindy does to keep that perfect image. Now my grandma I totally see it and can see her giving Cindy a run for her money…That doesn’t sound nice, but it is the way it is.
You know I am still really surprised that Holly the neighbor is still in their lives. How could she want the Anthony’s or Milstead’s around her kids…That really boggles my mind
stephanie,, sounds like you worked for cindy and george… lol
Madm…I did, but again I don’t see her lying the way CIndy lied…She was full of her self and very controlling. But, I don’t think she would have done the things Cindy has done.
Yea Dreamy Drew!
Grandma takes on Cindy! The grandma in FL took on Cindy and she walked away! LOL
Holly, needs counseling…..
That is right I forgot about that grandma…but I bet she doesn’t have such angel of children like Cindy and my grandma do, lol.
That was pretty funny she let Cindy have it…Than why did you say it smelled like a dead body, lol.
Did you all get to see the video we put up yesterday with Kathi asking Lyons if her students did her motions?? LMBO
LOL Steph! Yea Cindy has tube sock boy and mother of the year! lol
Shirley has SINdy! Plus other’s but they seem to have their heads on their shoulders straight!
Could you see Cindy going after Lee’s and Casey’s friends when they were little being a bully? I totally can see that…I wonder how many of the families remained close to them through the years. I know some said their families did things together. But, I wonder really how much and how close they really were.
I can see that too! Cindy what a brut! and still is! I think Cindy has thought from day one that Casey was an angel!
lmao steph , i can see cindy , running out the door with smoke coming from her nostrils lol , i bet she told those kids next time you’ll have to deal with me ! she seems like the type that would fight with other parents too , it wasn’t my kids , their perfect , that type of thing
I think Cindy thought both of her kids were angels. But, I don’t think it lasted with Casey. I really believe when Casey was much younger a competition started between them. I don’t know if it was before that or after but at some point Casey didn’t measure up…and Cindy let her know it in not a very nice way. That argument or I should say when Cindy went off on Jesse just humiliating Casey…That this was far from the first time and that it started many years ago. I believe it was a way to keep Casey in her place and allow Cindy to continue to feel superior to her. jmho
Chlry…so true, roflmbo
hi again.. I walked..
Cindy, Geo and lee were all trained to be controlled by WF…right from the beginning..
Chlry, too funny. I bet Lee was beat up alot when he was young!
Steph, I bet she did! But seems from Lee’s depo he didn’t get much attention! I do believe that Cindy and Casey were competing against each other!
I do think she was probably the baby of the family when she was little. But, I think the only reason she controls them in a sense…Cindy’s need to have the perfect image.
Yes they were Nanna!
good for you nanna lol
somewhere in time something happened in that family , i don’t know what and when , but there was fear of casey , just not wanting do deal with a difficult kid i think . it was easier to ignore , brush under the rug then to try and punish her
Well, she had blown that hasn’t she Steph!
yeah humble , i bet mama boy was biotch slapped here and there lol
WF..the Master controller of all.. like Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead…
I think maybe Lee did get attention, but maybe not the same amount as Casey. Or maybe the same amount before Caylee was ever born…i don’t know. But, I don’t think he really liked to be involved with his family, lol.
She was mean and wicked…when she was little..and they prolly thought she was so cute..so tuff..
I think so too Chlry!
Nanna, well she isn’t yet, but it could be soon!
Steph, well he did say when Casey was in trouble, if you can call it that, he would shut the door. Of course you can’t tell me he didn’t hear anything!
i think lee got maybe the proper attention he should have , they had control over him , he was punished i bet when he should have been . forget what they said how they parented , about talking to the kids like adults . i think they had control over lee and non with casey , they lost control and it was to much an effort to get back
Listening to Lee’s depo…he jumped when mom wanted him to. George did the same thing when he wanted to find out what was going on with Casey…Cindy told him to leave it and he did. IMO, it was Cindy’s call for everything…otherwise they would have done something a long time ago, but had to have permission from Cindy first.
Humble..she might as well be… maybe the letters between the A’s and WF will be published some day..
Chlry, did she discipline them?
Steph, BOY Geo jumped when told to and when he found out about the JOB that Casey didn’t have, They confronted her and she lied, and that was then end. Geo was led by the, by the…you know what I mean!
Usually people like Cindy that is very competitive with their females are much nicer to their boys than they are their girls…i don’t know if Cindy was, but usually they are. The one reason I could see her not being in the norm with others like this…her need for the perfect family. That when he didn’t do as well as she felt he should…she may have let him know it.
that’s why they dropped off…
LOL! Well I won’t buy them Nanna until the book is on the 50 cent table! lol
Steph, well she was all over DCasey!
Nanna, yep!
Nanna…lmbo
I wonder if Baez has most of those letters and if he will be the one finding a way to publish them?
She was also all over Rob Dick which I didn’t appreciate, lol.
Steph, I won’t buy anything from the Bozo clown either! he is just a LOSER!
I hear ya Steph! Poor Rob!
i agree steph , cindy had the upper hand in everything , i’m sure she used the term bread winner , and what would you all do without me to everyone in that family
humble , maybe not discipline often , but they had to at some point i would hope , but maybe not , maybe they were just worried about themselves too much
who was that man she was drooling over while Georgie standing there looking in the other direction?
lol steph , she liked that rob , she needed a shoulder to fake cry on
Chlry, I think maybe Lee was, but you can tell by Casey and the way she is, that she didn’t!
nanna , now your going to have me thinking all nite , we thought it was r grund but wasn’t , i can’t remember
Wasn’t that RG?
I don’t think we ever found out who that man was Nanna, but my gosh Larry would have been right over their in that guys face. I still see Cindy rubbing her face all over in Rob’s chest…and it is just gross
It isn’t him after all…I asked, lol
it did look like him but they were enemies …
humble i see it with my sister and her son all the time , he has add and other problems but they won’t go get help , probably because they don’t want to admit there is something big wrong . my niece is the perfect kid , but she is the one they discipline , the son forget , because there is always a fight to put up with when it comes to everything , i can see the a’s being that way when it came to casey, they gave her power by ignoring it in a way , like my sister is doing with her son .. in the end the kid wins , or that is what they think anyway
Are you sure it isn’t RG? Sure looks like him, let me find the photo.
Chlry, that is too bad. if he doesn’t get help, he will be miserable all his life, not to mention make everyone else miserable! Well in Casey’s case she won alright, a free needle in the arm!
Nanna…That’s what was so weird about that picture, which I guess not since it isn’t him, lol. I am curious who it is
Humble…When I was exchanging messages with him one time…I did ask about it. By his tone he didn’t appreciate that people still thought it was him, lol.
Here it is:
http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/files/2008/12/friendlyhug.jpg
Who is it?
I think a lot of times when people don’t get help for their kids it is because they think something is wrong with them.
i agree humble , my mom and i tell her all the time , he will turn into a monster , she says she will but then nothing , i say too late , should have been done when he was 8 or ten , he will be 18 in june
it wasn’t rg , was it a person from tes , or something like that , this will drive me nuts lol
Don’t they look like they are in a warm embrace and ready to kiss as George looks off, lmbo
Chlry…there is hope for him. We have a friend that their son didn’t get on meds until he was about 21…on his own. He is doing really good now, but they did go through a lot before he was on meds. At the same time it was his dad that kept saying their isn’t anything wrong with him and that is why he was never put on anything.
it could be that steph , in my sisters case though , both parents are in denial and like to say it’s just the add , or boys will be boys from the dad , but to tell you the truth both parents were never on the same page , regret will happen when something really bad happens , by then it’s too late , like with casey . i see my nephew doing worse things daily and nothing happens by the parents , maybe a little yelling but no real punishment , i tell my sis , whats it goig to take , for your son to wrap a car around a tree ! talking to parents of kids like this is a waste , they don’t really want to hear it because it reflects on them
Steph, does no good if they don’t get help, their kids could end up like Casey!
Chlry, that is too bad they haven’t gotten him help. he will be living at home for a long time, unable to cope out in the big world!
Steph, Geo is a dork!
Are friend was also disciplined much harder than his older and younger brother because of his add. Dad decided he was just a problem child. It didn’t help that he wasn’t the oldest…the name sake or the baby of the family. It was sad and he became my fav when they were young, lol.
i hope so steph
one night we were talking about that pic and the mystery man , someone told us who it was , wish i had a good memory lol
I think it’s one of the classic pictures of George.. cracks me up… duhhhhhhhhhh
he will is right humble , he barely has friends because of the way he treats people , it will effect jobs , friends and forget about having a relationship with a woman
I remember talking about it Chlry, but don’t remember being told who it was. So now you are going to have to remember for all of us, lol.
It is Nanna, lol.
Chlry, it will eventually happen, and it will be sad. Honestly who cares if anything reflects the parent, as long as the kid get helps. Sounds like they are worried about themselves and not him.
that is the same way george looked when there was that pic of him looking into that field way back when , geez this family has a lack of emotion
Chlry…it will cause all of those problems. Our friend’s son is doing good and I wish I could remember what sent him in to get help, but it was him not his parents.
it does humble , with new things going on in my sisters home it really is starting to remind me of the a’s and how all went wrong with casey , very similar
guess if she can get by with it…after all,, if it wasn’t for her there would be no bread on the table..
Nanna, yea, boy duh George!
Chlry, that is why Casey changed friends so much! jmo
Chlry..be thankful that you can tune into mistakes others are making so you won’t make the same..
Chlry, guess your family could start avoiding them! Make excuses not to go there! What is sad is it is about your sister, not about their son!
Who is that Nanna?
humblw when i googled who is the guy cindy is hugging the blog popped up from dec 17th 2008 lol
Very True Nanna…Larry is back with dinner. I will try to be back after a while and if not…have a good evening
CHlry…lmbo
LOL Chlry! I looked through the old posts on that day to see if anyone posted who it was!
true nanna , very true
i think so humble , i know she feels bad for him in a way too , she kind of coddles him , i guess she is the enabler you could say
enjoy dinner steph
i have to go too , my hbo sunday night shows are coming on at 9 , thanks for the chat everyone , have a good night
good nite ..i was called away for a bit..
… and what did Rick Pleasa say to sister Cindy.. gads, his openion of WF wasn’t made overnight..
Sorry Nanna, I was getting the roundup out:
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2009/11/08/casey-anthony-week-roundup-01-07-november-2009/