Caylee and the monster

11 November 2009 at 08:07
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In the USA 906,000 children are victims of abuse and neglect. Abuse is physical, emotional, sexual or neglect. Fifteen hundred child die a year from child abuse. Seventy percent of child abused are under the age of 3.  (This is 634,200 under the age of 3 years old)

What leads to child abuse, history of child abuse, stress and lack of support, alcohol and/or drug abuse, domestic violence. Warning signs of physical abuse unexplained bruises, welts, or cuts. Behavioral patterns the child is fearful, shy away, afraid to go home, inappropriate clothing for the weather, such as long pants and long sleeve shirt on a hot day. Caregiver signs, physically abusive caregivers may display anger management issues or excessive need to control.

I find it odd that there were many different markings around Caylee’s mouth, not to mention the marks under her eyes. Sure kids fall down, get hurt, bump their heads, etc.

cayleetonyphone cayleebruise

I had also written a post a while back about Caylee’s mouth and the marks around it.  There is a reason for these marks and are they from previous use of duct tape or is it from the use of chloroform on a cloth and put over her mouth?

caylee's mouth

Today I believe Caylee was abused by her so called mother. I also believe Cindy, the nurse (impersonator), knew Caylee was being abused.  Why?  Why else would Cindy have talked about getting custody of Caylee, but can’t afford it?  I am sure it had nothing to do with the fact that Casey was stealing right and left from Cindy and George.  Would there be a leg to stand on in court, for custody, for stealing money, there would be if it was child abuse.   According to the Florida law, a Nurse is mandated to report child abuse.  I wonder why Cindy never did?  Was she blind to this?  Probably, she didn’t know Casey was pregnant until she was 7 month and she claims she thought she was bloated, not to mention Casey had to tell her.  My thoughts on this,  it would have been too much of a hassle for Cindy.  It would have caused problems between Cindy and Casey, not to mention a possible kick out of the house and living in the car……nah, Casey would have found someone to shack up with.  BUT, I do wonder why Cindy would talk about getting custody of Caylee, when she claimed on tv, that Casey was Mother of the year!

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176 Responses to Caylee and the monster

  1. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 08:17

    Previous use of duct tape would have ripped her skin off.. JMO

    Morning everyone..

  2. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 08:18

    GM Nanna, it was just a thought and your right it would have.

  3. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 08:19

    Humble..that’s another reason why I feel she did see that duct tape video the 14th.. no one heard from her the 14th either.. jmo

  4. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 08:20

    ScRaMa, I read your comment. Why not copy and paste and bring it here as it was posted after the new blog.

  5. maze on 11 November 2009 at 08:22

    good morning evryone..where is this story about milsteads mansion..?

  6. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 08:23

    Has anyone ever been able to find out on what grounds Cindy & George wanted custody of Caylee. That is a very serious thing to do, to take a baby away from your daughter. It must have been pretty bad in that household to come to that, if that is true. Also, yelling and screaming and using foul language around a baby is cruel and verbal abuse. How nervous Caylee must have been around Casey and Cindy when they were at each other. Babies are very sensitive little beings, and need to be handled with care. Poor Caylee.

  7. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 08:24

    Good thinking Nanna! You musta got your detective hat on this morning!

    Hi ya Muesli….ScRaMa on the other page? I can copy and paste for her if she wants!

    Hi ya Maze, what about their house?

  8. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 08:24

    those pictures hurt my heart

  9. maze on 11 November 2009 at 08:25

    on other blog someone mentioned that the milstead have a 6,000 sq ft house?? that maybe cindy and clan would be moving in there..?

  10. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 08:25

    Muesli, I don’t know what grounds, but it was said by a co-worker of Cindy’s that she had talked about it!

  11. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 08:26

    I was thinking that since Casey seems to have such an anger problem, does she lash out at Biaz, also. Oh, how I would love to be a fly on the wall when he visits her. By the way, is he still spending hours and hours sitting with her in jail. Haven’t heard anything about jail visits in a long time. Anyone have that link to the visitation list. I may have bookmarked it, I’ll take a look. I have a gazillion bookmarks on this case.

  12. maze on 11 November 2009 at 08:26

    you could see that caylee was frightened when she was holding on to her great granfather,she did’nt want to move from him,barely lifted her face

  13. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 08:26

    no one in their right mind would put duct tape on anyone ..not even a snake.. well.. maybe a rattle snake

  14. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 08:27

    I know they were trying to start a runaway house for teens, but not sure if they ever did. They also lost their house. I can’t get to the kidfinders page…can’t be found! :w00t:

  15. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 08:28

    Nanna, I am running from at rattle snake no way would I stop to enjoy duct taping it! :lol:

  16. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 08:29

    I have no clue Muesli if he sits with her in jail! he is busy having a body guard and too busy with other cases!

  17. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 08:29

    Maze, I was the one who just “speculated” that it could be a possibility about the Milstead’s 6,305 sq. ft. house. It was on Johninflorida’s site. Actually, I said that here on humble’s blog. I just read it on John’s and the thought came to my head. No proof, no facts, just thinking. After all, can you imagine how big a 6,305 ft. house is? Where would all that money be coming from. Can’t believe Milstead’s have that kind of dough. But, how much have the A’s accumulated so far.

  18. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 08:30

    humble.. u could do it with a 10 ft pole… lol

  19. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 08:32

    :lol: Nanna! I’ll hold the pole, you duct tape!

  20. maze on 11 November 2009 at 08:33

    ok muesli

  21. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 08:34

    Hey, you two, I live here in Florida. You don’t go near a rattlesnake. Now, I know there are some other snakes I would like to put some duct tape on.

  22. thompson55 on 11 November 2009 at 08:35

    hi all just my 2 cents on the duct tape.I think poor little caylee was poisioned but she didn’t die fast enough.Caylee was still breathing so to speed up the death casey tape her airways to quickly get the deed done.makes me sick to even type this out

  23. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 08:37

    Hi thompson. I don’t think any of us will ever know exactly how Caylee died or if she suffered. I like to just think she went to sleep peacefully. I can’t handle any other thought of her death. Guess that is a type of denial.

  24. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 08:37

    Here is the post I posted awhile ago on the Milsteads:

    http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/more-problems-for-the-milsteads/

  25. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 08:41

    So, was the house sold last June 25th?

  26. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 08:42

    Muesli, its ok…Nanna will do the taping! :wink:

    Hi ya Thompson, whatever happened to Caylee, we will never really know, unless the State has a good idea. Casey won’t tell, as a matter of fact, Casey will never admit to it!

    Muesli, just thinking about it is just so sad. The poor girl suffered at the hand of the person who was suppose to be protecting and serving her, and I am not talking LE!

  27. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 08:43

    According to John, they still owe over $8,000 in back taxes on it. Also, I tried to goggle Kidfinders Network, and it doesn’t seem to exist anymore. Something smells fishy here. Maybe we can ask Cindy to explain it. After all, they are close friends, and should know.

  28. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 08:43

    Muesli, I believe it was up for auction. I forgot about it and meant to check it out, but when I went to the auction site, that weeks was already gone!

  29. livid on 11 November 2009 at 08:44

    Thompson, that’s an interesting theory…you might be on to something there.

  30. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 08:44

    Muesli, according to Cindy the Caylee fraudation has given them a donation!

  31. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 08:45

    Lee Anthony, do you understand now that it was the mother’s job to serve and protect her baby, not LE.

  32. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 08:48

    Humble.. u hold em down I will try.. eh?

    Mu.. I live in California..and rattle snakes are very abundant here also.. My dumb dogs have been bitten over the past 3 years a total of 6 times.. that’s 4 dogs, 2 a year.. a couple repeating .. that’s why I call them dumb..

  33. paula on 11 November 2009 at 08:51

    That photo of Caylee (from Tony’s apt) with the bruise under her right eye is just so haunting. A look in her eyes! Just heartbreaking.

  34. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 08:51

    Muesli, No he doesn’t and I don’t think Cindy does either.

    No thanks Nanna. I can’t touch snakes! I can’t even stand the site of them!

  35. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 08:52

    Paula.. yes it is heartbreaking..

  36. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 08:53

    I like King snakes and garter snakes.. they are nice.. Kings will kill a rattle.. lol

  37. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 08:53

    Hi Paula! Welcome! It is heart breaking! It sure makes you wonder, doesn’t it? When looking through the pictures today of Caylee, there are many she wasn’t smiling in. Her mother had her big teeth showing, but Caylee just wasn’t happy looking!

  38. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 08:57

    her teeth were showing when she was peein in the parking lot ..weren’t they? :w00t:

  39. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 08:58
  40. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 09:01

    humble..she tried to show them.. lol

  41. eyespy on 11 November 2009 at 09:01

    Meow!!

    Hi All

    Thompson, i used to think the same thing.With all the new info out on the bug reports i changed my mind.Since these cadaver insects look for openings in the body : i.e mouth, nose eares and genital areas to lay their eggs, i think Casey saw this and used the towells to wipe out caylees mouth and tape it shut.JMO.Also makes me sick to write this.

  42. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 09:03

    Hi ya Eye!

  43. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 09:03

    While I was trying to locate the jail visitation log on Casey, I came across this bit of information on image mail. I still remember it being stated that the A’s exchange letters through Biaz to Casey. I believe this is not allowed. Hope this paste and copy works.

    The Mail Services Section provides, sorts and delivers mail to both inmates and employees. The mailroom processes more than 127 tons of mail annually for the department’s more than 1,800 employees and more than 4,000 inmates. Each piece of inmate mail must be opened and checked for contraband items.

    Now, has Mr. Biaz given all of the exchanged mail to the jailers to check for contraband? Remember, when Cindy sent clothes for Casey, she hid a bracelet in some of the clothing. Totally illegal. But, oh well, the rules were not made for the A’s.

  44. maze on 11 November 2009 at 09:03

    here is some of milstead other business

    snapshot of KFN Corporate History
    MILSTEAD, LUCILLE D/S ENTERPRISE OF SOUTH FLORIDA, INC.
    MILSTEAD, LUCILLE R KUTE KIDS KUTS & KURLS, INC.
    MILSTEAD, LUCILLE R KUTE KIDS KUTS & KURLS, INC.
    MILSTEAD, MALORI THE SIGN STORE, INC.
    MILSTEAD, MALORI J GOTCHA BILLBOARDS, INC.
    MILSTEAD, MALORI J SIGN SHACK UNLIMITED, CORP.
    MILSTEAD, MALORI J SIGN SHACK UNLIMITED, CORP.
    MILSTEAD, MALORI V.P THE SIGN STORE FOR BIG ADS
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI CHAUDRON ROAD CORPORATION
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI THE SIGN STORE, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI AMERICAN SEEDING & EROSION CONTROL,INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI AMERICAN SEEDING AND EROSION SERVICES, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI AMERICAN GRAPHICS AND SIGN SHOP, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI KID FINDERS NETWORK, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI THE SIGN STORE, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI AMERICAN SEEDING & EROSION CONTROL,INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI AMERICAN SEEDING AND EROSION SERVICES, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI AMERICAN GRAPHICS AND SIGN SHOP, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI J KID FINDERS NETWORK, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI M GOTCHA BILLBOARDS, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI M GOTCHA BILLBOARDS, Inc
    MILSTEAD, DENNIS TREE WORLD OF PALM BEACH COUNTY, INC.
    MILSTEAD, DENNIS AG-LAND GRASSING, CORP.
    MILSTEAD, DENNIS W KID FINDERS NETWORK, INC.
    MILSTEAD, DENNIS W SAFETY IN A FLASH, INC.

  45. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 09:04

    IMATE not image.

  46. maze on 11 November 2009 at 09:05

    with all these busineess they had to move in with the nats??none of these are generating money hummm?

  47. eyespy on 11 November 2009 at 09:06

    Good lord Maze, anything else these grifters can get their hands into?

  48. Hadley on 11 November 2009 at 09:07

    Humble, I asked this question to Bill Shaffer; but didn’t get a reply. Hope you will be able to answer it for me. Is the state required to give Casey a plea deal? If so, what’s the point of having the DP on the table? Tks. Hadley

  49. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 09:07

    Going to check out what’s new in the media and a few of the sites to see if there is anything new there. Then it’s time for lunch, and I’ll see you all later on. I cannot get an update of the visitation log. The last one available was for 1/26/09. Anyone have a current link?

  50. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 09:07

    They are just working on getting FreeMoney.. no jackpots yet I guess..

  51. eyespy on 11 November 2009 at 09:08

    Hiya Humble
    Great post, im with Nana though the pics are so sad.

  52. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 09:08

    smoke & mirrors, where are you when I need you.

  53. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 09:11

    Hey I just went into the other room to see if I had any duct tape because I wanted to try a piece on my own mouth (small pc) and see what it would do. Anyone have the guts to try that? I definetly would try it but can not find any. I tried a piece of heavy clear tape used for sending boxed stuff and it was difficult to get off and left a little redness.

  54. ScRaMa on 11 November 2009 at 09:12

    sorry, I seem to be way behind again! :blush: but good morning again to Humble, Mues, Maze, Nanna, Eye, goodness.. you all came back or am I really way behind this morning? hugs

  55. eyespy on 11 November 2009 at 09:12

    Hugs to you Scrama….

  56. eyespy on 11 November 2009 at 09:14

    I will be back in a bit…housework calls!

  57. ScRaMa on 11 November 2009 at 09:14

    see ya eye :wink: forgot hvf, Hadley & whoever else but good morning hugs to you too!

  58. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 09:14

    hvf.. ouch! no way.. :lol:

    morning Sacrama

  59. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 09:15

    Housework will always be there..

  60. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 09:15

    ScRaMa GM Bye EYE

  61. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 09:17

    nannab
    Ok I am going to my daughters house and she has some duct tape and I am going to try a small piece. I will let you all know later today if I ripped my lips off.

  62. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 09:17

    Hi again ScRaMa. I suggested that you copy and paste your last post which came after we all came to this new blog. I was just leaving, and now I feel the challenge from hvf. I’ll go see if I have any duct tape and try a little piece. Don’t want to rip my lips off.

  63. ScRaMa on 11 November 2009 at 09:17

    Humble, hope you’re reading email? :biggrin:

  64. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 09:18

    WOW Maze….they are busy!

    Hi Hadley! The state is NOT required to give a plea deal to Casey. I think, and this is my opinion, that if there is ever another deal out there she will have to plea guilty for first degree murder.
    She had one on the table way back when she thought she was so smart and never acknowledged it.

  65. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 09:19

    So with that said Hadley, the answer is NO! The state is not required to plea with her! (Just making that clear)

  66. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 09:20

    Humble
    Keep in mind that WF is not smart enough to know that she is not smart.

  67. maze on 11 November 2009 at 09:20

    other milsteads involved with their so called compays

    Glenn E Milstead
    •Natalie B Milstead
    •Sharon R Milstead

  68. ScRaMa on 11 November 2009 at 09:20

    Mues, I guess I could do that.. lol on hvf’s challenge & you are too funny with that duct tape.. pleez, be careful! :wink:

  69. maze on 11 November 2009 at 09:20
  70. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 09:20

    hvf.. you won’t be able to talk after.. be careful with that stuff.. it’s lethal.. lol

  71. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 09:23

    I have some cheap duct tape here and it is holding together th broken pole to my big outside umbrella..thru wind sleet snow..heat..etc etc..

  72. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 09:25

    LOL everyone……keep in mind that I am fond of my lips

  73. ScRaMa on 11 November 2009 at 09:25

    my previous post..

    WOW.. did everyone see me coming & took off? Oh well… for those of you still here.. good morning & hugs! I’ve been busy last few days so trying to catch up reading [not lurking]
    And, hugs for the great post Humble! mho.. we all know how complicated this case is because of all their lies & Bozo’s telling DumbdumbCasey if he finds anything to “contact him before going to LE” will come to be just another nail in CMA’s coffin & just one more reason why Bozo too will go down! And, now that more proof has been brought to light in the latest docs, I think they must be at this point, trying to come up with some reason for his being where Caylee’s remains were found! They have actually made CMA look more guilty & buried themselves too! Bozo cannot defend CMA because he can’t defend himself! To make this all come together, or full circle, we have to hear from DumbdumbCasey to find out who told him to go there & search, {who was he talking to on his cell that day?.. Cindy? Lee? or Bozo?] No matter what, I know this case is going to take down a lot of so called professionals who thought they were so great! They will wish they never heard of CMA! Makes me so to think they all think she’s so worth it when she deserves to go straight to H.. no pleas, nothing! Prooving once again, the theory that they all sold their souls to the killer, I mean :devil:

    ScRaMa

    11 Nov 09 at 08:15

  74. maze on 11 November 2009 at 09:25

    there is even a malory milsead..

  75. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 09:27

    HVF, true. The fun part of it is she thinks she is! She thinks the world is as silly as her mother and will believe what ever she says! Oh, please don’t do the duct tape on your lips….but if you do, make sure it is Heckel! just kidding

  76. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 09:28

    okay. Experiment done. It’s not so bad. I took a piece and put it across my month (not including my nose (I’m weird, not crazy)), and ripped it off. No different than a band aid. Then, I took a pastry brush and applied ashes from my ashtray to look for finger prints. Couldn’t see any. Then, I just cut off another piece of duct tape and did the same with the ashes. There my finger prints were clearly visible. Guess the contact with my face (makeup) wiped away the finger prints from the first piece. By the way, I had to use a scissor, as I couldn’t rip the tape. Perhaps Casey used the knife they found to do that.

  77. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 09:30

    By the way, the brand I used is Nashua, produced in Kentucky.

  78. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 09:30

    The address 1740 E road is the house that was auctioned off!

  79. ScRaMa on 11 November 2009 at 09:32

    WOW.. Eyes, I’m impressed! You are good! Sounds like you should be in forensics! Maybe CMA oily face whiped away the fingerprints? And, we all know her big arse teeth “cut thru” that tape! :biggrin:

  80. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 09:32

    Humble
    There is a term for WF’s thinking. It is called
    “Illusion of Invulnerabiliy”
    It happens because they have gotten away with so much in their life that they think that they can still get away with murder.

  81. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 09:34

    So Muesli
    Do you still have lips????

  82. maze on 11 November 2009 at 09:35
  83. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 09:36

    ScReMa
    Oh I think that they may have already compared her big arse teeth to those markings.

  84. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 09:37

    I can’t believe they followed thru with DC sniper’s sentence.. I would love to know how the A gang feels about that..

  85. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 09:38

    Your all good ScRaMa!

    Muesli… :w00t:

    HVF, thanks I will have to remember Illusion of Invulnerability. I am laughing at your question to Muesli!

  86. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 09:38

    I think Muesli can’t move her lips..

  87. ScRaMa on 11 November 2009 at 09:41

    man, if I could just keep up! errrr.. but will brb, need another cup of mojo to finish waking up if possible.. love you guys so don’t leave me here alone?

  88. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 09:43

    Humble
    You are welcome to use that in one of your headings.
    I just want to know because I am going to try some in a little while here but ONLY a tiny piece. This way I may only loose a tiny spot.

  89. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 09:45

    put it on your legs.. u won’t hafta shave anymore…lol

  90. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 09:47

    nannab
    i will try that first

  91. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 09:48

    My lips are only tingling a little bit. No more facial hair. :lol:

  92. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 09:49

    Come on hvf, if I can do it, so can you. It only hurts for a little while.

  93. Muesli on 11 November 2009 at 09:51

    See you all later. I was going to go a long time ago until hvf’s duct tape challenge.

  94. Hadley on 11 November 2009 at 09:52

    Thanks Humble! I’m sure Lyon’s is busting her Angel Girdle to come up with a reason NOT to give Casey the DP! (One reason her book is out..) I think LWOP is fine..”if” she had to do labor of some kind. One thing I know, she is a clear danger to society!

    I will always believe the Anthonys have known Calee was dead since they smelled the decomp. It’s so shameful the way they have behaved.

  95. ScRaMa on 11 November 2009 at 09:52

    I’m back & Mues you are cracking me up here! But if I learned one thing from you today, it’s I will def. try the tape on my legs! I hate shaving as much as the dbf hates my hairy legs! :biggrin:

  96. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 09:53

    Ok I will try it Muesli
    It proves that it will not really tear the lips really. my daughter has some and I will go there in a bit here. Love your courage though. I would have just died if you ended up with no lips though. Love ya

  97. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 09:53

    It only hurts for a little while..that’s a song..don’t believe it.. :lol:

  98. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 09:56

    There is the “INDUSTRIAL”-extra tough though. NO one try that on their lips please!!!! I feel a sense of responsibility here. I do not want anyone in the hospital with Hinkel tape on their mouths please.
    I would feel down right horrible about that.

  99. ScRaMa on 11 November 2009 at 09:57

    I wonder if the tape would work on zit & mole removal? maybe CMA should order the duct tape instead of the junk food! Then again, maybe she doesn’t like duct tape any more, too many reminders, maybe? But not, if she still thinks her alter ego killed her child! I so don’t like her one iota!

  100. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 09:57

    hvf..guaranteed ..I won’t try it..lol

  101. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 09:57

    ScRaMa
    thank you for your post at 09:25

  102. ScRaMa on 11 November 2009 at 10:00

    welcome hvf & you started this whole duct tape thingy with Mues? You too are too funny! :wink:

  103. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 10:01

    Well I am in for helping the FBI with anything I can

  104. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 10:04

    or prosecution rather I guess

  105. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 10:08

    Thanks Handley, I was wondering who was saying they had to. Of course I am almost sure Lyons isn’t using her marbles to think!

    bbl be safe!

  106. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 10:09

    HVF, try vaseline on the lips first!

  107. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 10:12

    Hadley
    SHe IS a danger to society.
    BBL and will try the tape in a while

  108. eyespy on 11 November 2009 at 10:14

    Meow!!
    Ha Ha Ha Maze, love that video of milsap!He looks like he is soooooo clueless and slovenly. Kathi ROCKS!!

  109. ScRaMa on 11 November 2009 at 10:33

    WOW.. sure got “quiet” where did yall go??

  110. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 10:36

    I’m sorta here….lol it got too quiet for me so I am in and out..

  111. nannab on 11 November 2009 at 10:37

    gonna go get some things done.. bbl

  112. ScRaMa on 11 November 2009 at 10:40

    me too, but still haven’t had breakfast & it’s after lunchtime here.. guess I’ll make a salad & see yall later.. Doesn’t take much to ammuse me & this morning with the duct tape was remarkable! bbs..

  113. 13jamie on 11 November 2009 at 10:52

    the duct tape crew…

  114. lynda on 11 November 2009 at 10:53

    ouch! hi 13jamie

  115. 13jamie on 11 November 2009 at 10:54

    the pic of caylee with the crooked smile, i still think something looks to be wrong there. to me looks like she has been way too doped up…

  116. 13jamie on 11 November 2009 at 10:56

    maybe you guys duct tape crew oughtta go to caseys cell and keep saying WE ARE COMING FOR YOU!!!! or better yet see if it will take care of all those zits on her ugly back!!!

  117. lynda on 11 November 2009 at 10:56

    I always thought that picture of her looed strange. It doesn’t look like her.

  118. 13jamie on 11 November 2009 at 10:57

    it just reminds me of someone gettin out of surgery or somethin and the anethesia wearing off!!

  119. lynda on 11 November 2009 at 10:58

    looked

  120. lynda on 11 November 2009 at 10:59

    it’s creepy

  121. 13jamie on 11 November 2009 at 11:32

    everybody left me…

  122. madmaxi on 11 November 2009 at 11:49

    hi everyone, I am only here for a few but, the picture on the bottom row, and second from left is the one that haunts me.. It is very disturbing.. she has changed and it is like something serious wrong with the mouth and cheeks and eyes.. is that the one you are talking about jamie13???

  123. ScRaMa on 11 November 2009 at 11:49

    HI Jamie & Lynda, just came in for sumpin’ but out again for lunch.. man the time sure is flying by today! time to get busy w/ chores too! bbl.. hugs

  124. ScRaMa on 11 November 2009 at 12:01

    where she is gritting her teeth both pics far top left & far left bottom, she is def. showing signs of anxiety, maybe pain? & you are right, Mad & Jamie, the one with the crooked lips, is so desturbing! Out of all, does not look like her as much. Her looks change thru-out & bet a lot of these were taken just short of her demise by CMA! Most times, it infuriates me more when I see these pics, thinking how sad it is because no matter how often we look, we still all see the same things in her sweet little face.. how she suffered for how long at the hands of her killer mom! If only that damn-grandmother would have done something for her! Her singing still makes me cry! Remember, I raised all boys so have many reasons for loving this little angel! She is something very special, I know to all of us!
    dbf coming home early again so have to shootoutta here.. again, hugs & syl

  125. Hadley on 11 November 2009 at 12:24

    In my opinion, I can’t think of anyone who deserves the DP more than Casey Anthony. She is as evil as anyone I can imagine. It breaks my heart to think of the pain and torture and FEAR that little Caylee went through while she looked into the eyes of her killer. I say, bring on the needle! (even with the needle, she would not come close to the pain little Caylee went through!)

  126. Hadley on 11 November 2009 at 12:34

    Unfortunately, even if she gets the DP it could take years and years before she got the needle. At least she would be on Death Row tho.

    Scott Peterson is still around, and will probably continue to be for a long, long time. I think waiting a year is too long, not ten or more years. JMO

  127. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 12:43

    Hello Everyone…

    Nanna…this is true about the duct tape taring skin off, especially with this duct tape. Larry said it is made with more sticky substance so it stays on better.

  128. Filipa on 11 November 2009 at 12:46

    hello folks! any hot news?
    please let me know..was there any social services look into this mothers demeanour ,prior to the child neglect accusation, due to the 31 days without a care?

  129. lynda on 11 November 2009 at 12:47

    Hi Hadley, Even lwp at 23 years old would satisfy me, but lwp isn’t enough if a prisoner gets to lounge around and do nothing. My version of lwp would certainly contain extreme hard labour, man or woman, doesn’t matter. No tv, no perks, only hard hard labour. 23 to say about 75, that would be a sentence that would satisfy me.

  130. lynda on 11 November 2009 at 12:49

    Hi Stepanie and Filipa,

  131. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 12:50

    Hi Hadley, I am for the Dp in this case! I have come to the conclusion that anyone who is found guilty of murdering a child, should get it. They should have only one year in prison to get their affairs in order.

  132. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 12:52

    Hi ya Steph! I remember you saying Larry said that!

    Hi Filipa. It is child neglect on her part.

    Hi Lynda, I believe she is looking at LWOP. But I like the needle better for her.

  133. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 12:54

    Hi Filipa…I don’t think so.

    Hi Hadley…I am also for the dp for child murderers and child rapists.

    Hi Lynda…If the defense continues forward to trail and not seek a plea…I would be surprised if she didn’t get the dp. But, if she doesn’t I don’t see her getting less than lwop.

    Hi Humble…I agree

  134. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 12:57

    I too am for the ones that rape children. They all need to have the last supper and needle!

  135. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 12:58

    Sex offenders seem to get out of jail real wasy…we all know they won’t stop. I think it is HORRIBLE to rape anyone, but a child…I am with you Humble “last supper and a needle.”

  136. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 12:58

    i AGREE……..ANYONE THAT KILLS A CHILD SHOULD GET THE DP BUT I AM FOR DP FOR ANY FIRST DEGREE MURDER

  137. lynda on 11 November 2009 at 13:01

    Hi humble and hvf

  138. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 13:01

    Hi Hvf…here in Texas it is an automatic capital case to murder a child.

  139. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 13:01

    and if she gets LWOP then I hope it is in a cell that is 4 X 4 feet!!!!!!!!!

  140. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 13:02

    That should be ‘easy’ above not ‘wasy’ lol

  141. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 13:06

    stephanie
    As it should be!

  142. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 13:09

    I agree Hvf…I wonder if we will be getting a few more docs. I am wondering if they ever went back and asked TL if he told Casey what his roommate wanted him to…she can’t stay there with Caylee. I am real curious about that.

  143. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 13:12

    Hi Lynda!

    Steph, if they were just mean in everyone state! :lol:

    HVF….tape results???

  144. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 13:13

    Why Steph?

  145. hvf on 11 November 2009 at 13:15

    Humble
    It will have to be later today……my daughter did not have any but my honey may. I will see him in a few minutes.

  146. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 13:17

    Why am I real curious if TL ever told Casey? It wouldn’t have been to far before she murdered Caylee and wondering if he told her the night of the big fight. I don’t think casey needed to hear this to murder Caylee. But, I do think it would have added to it. I believe Casey killed Caylee to have the life she wanted and to also get away from CIndy…i really don’t believe it had anything to do with hating or getting back at Cindy. But, in Casey’s mind she couldn’t have the life she wanted because of Caylee…Caylee also kept her dependent on her mom…not that she was, but she was. I also believe if she could have she would have gone to TL’s that night, but she didn’t she just stayed on the phone..texting all night with him. I am wondering if he told her that night.

  147. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 13:18

    LOL! Run over to Michaels crafts, they have a whole bunch of cool colors, florescent pink, yellow, green, dark blue…it does on and on………. :lol:

  148. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 13:18

    What are you all doing with the tape??

  149. lynda on 11 November 2009 at 13:18

    Why would 20 something college boys want a 3 year old little girl living with them. cma is the kind who would make up a story about one of them molesting Caylee if they split up. Maybe the freind got that vibe.

  150. lynda on 11 November 2009 at 13:20

    Steph, trying to see what kind of damage the tape does to ones skin. Also, see how much hair it pulls out. lol

  151. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 13:21

    Humble…lol

  152. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 13:23

    Lynda…the friend was the only one thinking, I am kind of wondering if it was the roommates girlfriend that pushed this. She was the only one that didn’t think Casey worked and that she didn’t watch her close enough. The roommate said because the drugs they do Caylee shouldn’t be there.

  153. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 13:24

    Larry has some of that real old grey duct tape Casey used, but not the same brand…he never heard of that brand before. I asked him to find it and so far I think he put me on the back burner, lol.

  154. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 13:25

    I never thought of that. I always thought that TL saying he wanted only boys added to it!

  155. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 13:28

    Lyndia yep that is what HVF and Muesli are doing it for! LOL

    Steph from Muesli:

    okay. Experiment done. It’s not so bad. I took a piece and put it across my month (not including my nose (I’m weird, not crazy)), and ripped it off. No different than a band aid. Then, I took a pastry brush and applied ashes from my ashtray to look for finger prints. Couldn’t see any. Then, I just cut off another piece of duct tape and did the same with the ashes. There my finger prints were clearly visible. Guess the contact with my face (makeup) wiped away the finger prints from the first piece. By the way, I had to use a scissor, as I couldn’t rip the tape. Perhaps Casey used the knife they found to do that.

    Muesli
    11 Nov 09 at 09:28

  156. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 13:28

    Larry doesn’t like me to bother him while he is working, lol. I did ask when he used this tape long ago if he ever got it stuck on him…and if it would pull hair off and skin. He said it depends on how long it has been on there. He said if you are talking about Caylee…it could maybe more so because her skin would be more sensitive..but might still depend on the length of time. He said if it is like they said and was made for ac ducts…it is heavy bonded tape.

  157. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 13:31

    Someone else did the test…can’t remember who. I know I use duct tape all the time, but I am able to tare it with my hands.

  158. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 13:31

    You know she would have to duct tape her hands or tie them up to…Caylee would pull it off her face if her hands were free

  159. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 13:34

    I figured if it was on there long, it would rip the skin off, but who knows with Casey, she might have used it daily until Caylee went to sleep and removed it!

    Isn’t Muesli funny using ashes to see her prints on the tape!

  160. maze on 11 November 2009 at 13:35

    I have never had to use a knife or anything to tear duct tape it rips easily for me.

  161. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 13:37

    That is funny Humble…I am ready for another doc dump. I know I haven’t finished the last, but I am ready for latent prints docs…along with Mallory’s interview.

  162. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 13:38

    Hi Maze…Maybe we are just overly strong, lol.

  163. maze on 11 November 2009 at 13:40

    steph not as strong as I used to be lol

  164. maze on 11 November 2009 at 13:41

    when is the check trial?

  165. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 13:43

    Pre-trial is next month…that is all I can think of right now, lol.

    Well either we are still overly strong or our duct tape is really cheap duct tape, lol.

  166. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 13:45

    :blush: There are sometimes I can’t rip mine but that heavy super duty red is something else!

  167. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 13:47

    I have never seen colored duct tape before…that is too funny. But, we have bought lots of colored electric tape for soccer…they would put it around their socks or something, lol.

  168. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 13:54

    Here Steph…they look cool when thrown in a basket:

    http://www.michaels.com/art/online/displayProductPage?productNum=gc0248

  169. lynda on 11 November 2009 at 13:56

    I work at a very LARGE Home Center, and we have all kinds of duct tape in all colours. We are the Depot of duct tape.lol

  170. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 13:57

    Just when you thought duct tape was just for ducts:

    http://www.michaels.com/art/online/projectsheet?pid=c00214

    Make duct tape rose’s!

  171. debwv on 11 November 2009 at 14:00

    My youngest son is a duct tape master LOL. He duct tape things he can’t fixs. He was unloading the groceries off my truck Sunday,and the lock broke off.Told him when he fixs it no duct tape :lol:

  172. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 14:02

    Humble, Lynda and Deb…too funny

    By the way that is the brand we use

  173. stephanie on 11 November 2009 at 14:02
  174. lynda on 11 November 2009 at 14:03

    I’ve heard of clothing being made out of duct tape. I don’t know where but I know I heard it.

  175. debwv on 11 November 2009 at 14:04

    Did you see the prom dresses made with duct. These girls did a really good job.

  176. humbleopinion on 11 November 2009 at 14:04

    Debwv. too funny!

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