Caylee and the monster

In the USA 906,000 children are victims of abuse and neglect. Abuse is physical, emotional, sexual or neglect. Fifteen hundred child die a year from child abuse. Seventy percent of child abused are under the age of 3.  (This is 634,200 under the age of 3 years old)

What leads to child abuse, history of child abuse, stress and lack of support, alcohol and/or drug abuse, domestic violence. Warning signs of physical abuse unexplained bruises, welts, or cuts. Behavioral patterns the child is fearful, shy away, afraid to go home, inappropriate clothing for the weather, such as long pants and long sleeve shirt on a hot day. Caregiver signs, physically abusive caregivers may display anger management issues or excessive need to control.

I find it odd that there were many different markings around Caylee’s mouth, not to mention the marks under her eyes. Sure kids fall down, get hurt, bump their heads, etc.

cayleetonyphone cayleebruise

I had also written a post a while back about Caylee’s mouth and the marks around it.  There is a reason for these marks and are they from previous use of duct tape or is it from the use of chloroform on a cloth and put over her mouth?

caylee's mouth

Today I believe Caylee was abused by her so called mother. I also believe Cindy, the nurse (impersonator), knew Caylee was being abused.  Why?  Why else would Cindy have talked about getting custody of Caylee, but can’t afford it?  I am sure it had nothing to do with the fact that Casey was stealing right and left from Cindy and George.  Would there be a leg to stand on in court, for custody, for stealing money, there would be if it was child abuse.   According to the Florida law, a Nurse is mandated to report child abuse.  I wonder why Cindy never did?  Was she blind to this?  Probably, she didn’t know Casey was pregnant until she was 7 month and she claims she thought she was bloated, not to mention Casey had to tell her.  My thoughts on this,  it would have been too much of a hassle for Cindy.  It would have caused problems between Cindy and Casey, not to mention a possible kick out of the house and living in the car……nah, Casey would have found someone to shack up with.  BUT, I do wonder why Cindy would talk about getting custody of Caylee, when she claimed on tv, that Casey was Mother of the year!

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176 Responses to Caylee and the monster

  1. nannab says:

    Previous use of duct tape would have ripped her skin off.. JMO

    Morning everyone..

  2. GM Nanna, it was just a thought and your right it would have.

  3. nannab says:

    Humble..that’s another reason why I feel she did see that duct tape video the 14th.. no one heard from her the 14th either.. jmo

  4. Muesli says:

    ScRaMa, I read your comment. Why not copy and paste and bring it here as it was posted after the new blog.

  5. maze says:

    good morning evryone..where is this story about milsteads mansion..?

  6. Muesli says:

    Has anyone ever been able to find out on what grounds Cindy & George wanted custody of Caylee. That is a very serious thing to do, to take a baby away from your daughter. It must have been pretty bad in that household to come to that, if that is true. Also, yelling and screaming and using foul language around a baby is cruel and verbal abuse. How nervous Caylee must have been around Casey and Cindy when they were at each other. Babies are very sensitive little beings, and need to be handled with care. Poor Caylee.

  7. Good thinking Nanna! You musta got your detective hat on this morning!

    Hi ya Muesli….ScRaMa on the other page? I can copy and paste for her if she wants!

    Hi ya Maze, what about their house?

  8. nannab says:

    those pictures hurt my heart

  9. maze says:

    on other blog someone mentioned that the milstead have a 6,000 sq ft house?? that maybe cindy and clan would be moving in there..?

  10. Muesli, I don’t know what grounds, but it was said by a co-worker of Cindy’s that she had talked about it!

  11. Muesli says:

    I was thinking that since Casey seems to have such an anger problem, does she lash out at Biaz, also. Oh, how I would love to be a fly on the wall when he visits her. By the way, is he still spending hours and hours sitting with her in jail. Haven’t heard anything about jail visits in a long time. Anyone have that link to the visitation list. I may have bookmarked it, I’ll take a look. I have a gazillion bookmarks on this case.

  12. maze says:

    you could see that caylee was frightened when she was holding on to her great granfather,she did’nt want to move from him,barely lifted her face

  13. nannab says:

    no one in their right mind would put duct tape on anyone ..not even a snake.. well.. maybe a rattle snake

  14. I know they were trying to start a runaway house for teens, but not sure if they ever did. They also lost their house. I can’t get to the kidfinders page…can’t be found! :w00t:

  15. Nanna, I am running from at rattle snake no way would I stop to enjoy duct taping it! :lol:

  16. I have no clue Muesli if he sits with her in jail! he is busy having a body guard and too busy with other cases!

  17. Muesli says:

    Maze, I was the one who just “speculated” that it could be a possibility about the Milstead’s 6,305 sq. ft. house. It was on Johninflorida’s site. Actually, I said that here on humble’s blog. I just read it on John’s and the thought came to my head. No proof, no facts, just thinking. After all, can you imagine how big a 6,305 ft. house is? Where would all that money be coming from. Can’t believe Milstead’s have that kind of dough. But, how much have the A’s accumulated so far.

  18. nannab says:

    humble.. u could do it with a 10 ft pole… lol

  19. :lol: Nanna! I’ll hold the pole, you duct tape!

  20. maze says:

    ok muesli

  21. Muesli says:

    Hey, you two, I live here in Florida. You don’t go near a rattlesnake. Now, I know there are some other snakes I would like to put some duct tape on.

  22. thompson55 says:

    hi all just my 2 cents on the duct tape.I think poor little caylee was poisioned but she didn’t die fast enough.Caylee was still breathing so to speed up the death casey tape her airways to quickly get the deed done.makes me sick to even type this out

  23. Muesli says:

    Hi thompson. I don’t think any of us will ever know exactly how Caylee died or if she suffered. I like to just think she went to sleep peacefully. I can’t handle any other thought of her death. Guess that is a type of denial.

  24. Muesli says:

    So, was the house sold last June 25th?

  25. Muesli, its ok…Nanna will do the taping! :wink:

    Hi ya Thompson, whatever happened to Caylee, we will never really know, unless the State has a good idea. Casey won’t tell, as a matter of fact, Casey will never admit to it!

    Muesli, just thinking about it is just so sad. The poor girl suffered at the hand of the person who was suppose to be protecting and serving her, and I am not talking LE!

  26. Muesli says:

    According to John, they still owe over $8,000 in back taxes on it. Also, I tried to goggle Kidfinders Network, and it doesn’t seem to exist anymore. Something smells fishy here. Maybe we can ask Cindy to explain it. After all, they are close friends, and should know.

  27. Muesli, I believe it was up for auction. I forgot about it and meant to check it out, but when I went to the auction site, that weeks was already gone!

  28. livid says:

    Thompson, that’s an interesting theory…you might be on to something there.

  29. Muesli, according to Cindy the Caylee fraudation has given them a donation!

  30. Muesli says:

    Lee Anthony, do you understand now that it was the mother’s job to serve and protect her baby, not LE.

  31. nannab says:

    Humble.. u hold em down I will try.. eh?

    Mu.. I live in California..and rattle snakes are very abundant here also.. My dumb dogs have been bitten over the past 3 years a total of 6 times.. that’s 4 dogs, 2 a year.. a couple repeating .. that’s why I call them dumb..

  32. paula says:

    That photo of Caylee (from Tony’s apt) with the bruise under her right eye is just so haunting. A look in her eyes! Just heartbreaking.

  33. Muesli, No he doesn’t and I don’t think Cindy does either.

    No thanks Nanna. I can’t touch snakes! I can’t even stand the site of them!

  34. nannab says:

    Paula.. yes it is heartbreaking..

  35. nannab says:

    I like King snakes and garter snakes.. they are nice.. Kings will kill a rattle.. lol

  36. Hi Paula! Welcome! It is heart breaking! It sure makes you wonder, doesn’t it? When looking through the pictures today of Caylee, there are many she wasn’t smiling in. Her mother had her big teeth showing, but Caylee just wasn’t happy looking!

  37. nannab says:

    her teeth were showing when she was peein in the parking lot ..weren’t they? :w00t:

  38. nannab says:

    humble..she tried to show them.. lol

  39. eyespy says:

    Meow!!

    Hi All

    Thompson, i used to think the same thing.With all the new info out on the bug reports i changed my mind.Since these cadaver insects look for openings in the body : i.e mouth, nose eares and genital areas to lay their eggs, i think Casey saw this and used the towells to wipe out caylees mouth and tape it shut.JMO.Also makes me sick to write this.

  40. Muesli says:

    While I was trying to locate the jail visitation log on Casey, I came across this bit of information on image mail. I still remember it being stated that the A’s exchange letters through Biaz to Casey. I believe this is not allowed. Hope this paste and copy works.

    The Mail Services Section provides, sorts and delivers mail to both inmates and employees. The mailroom processes more than 127 tons of mail annually for the department’s more than 1,800 employees and more than 4,000 inmates. Each piece of inmate mail must be opened and checked for contraband items.

    Now, has Mr. Biaz given all of the exchanged mail to the jailers to check for contraband? Remember, when Cindy sent clothes for Casey, she hid a bracelet in some of the clothing. Totally illegal. But, oh well, the rules were not made for the A’s.

  41. maze says:

    here is some of milstead other business

    snapshot of KFN Corporate History
    MILSTEAD, LUCILLE D/S ENTERPRISE OF SOUTH FLORIDA, INC.
    MILSTEAD, LUCILLE R KUTE KIDS KUTS & KURLS, INC.
    MILSTEAD, LUCILLE R KUTE KIDS KUTS & KURLS, INC.
    MILSTEAD, MALORI THE SIGN STORE, INC.
    MILSTEAD, MALORI J GOTCHA BILLBOARDS, INC.
    MILSTEAD, MALORI J SIGN SHACK UNLIMITED, CORP.
    MILSTEAD, MALORI J SIGN SHACK UNLIMITED, CORP.
    MILSTEAD, MALORI V.P THE SIGN STORE FOR BIG ADS
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI CHAUDRON ROAD CORPORATION
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI THE SIGN STORE, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI AMERICAN SEEDING & EROSION CONTROL,INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI AMERICAN SEEDING AND EROSION SERVICES, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI AMERICAN GRAPHICS AND SIGN SHOP, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI KID FINDERS NETWORK, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI THE SIGN STORE, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI AMERICAN SEEDING & EROSION CONTROL,INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI AMERICAN SEEDING AND EROSION SERVICES, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI AMERICAN GRAPHICS AND SIGN SHOP, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI J KID FINDERS NETWORK, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI M GOTCHA BILLBOARDS, INC.
    MILSTEAD, SHERRI M GOTCHA BILLBOARDS, Inc
    MILSTEAD, DENNIS TREE WORLD OF PALM BEACH COUNTY, INC.
    MILSTEAD, DENNIS AG-LAND GRASSING, CORP.
    MILSTEAD, DENNIS W KID FINDERS NETWORK, INC.
    MILSTEAD, DENNIS W SAFETY IN A FLASH, INC.

  42. Muesli says:

    IMATE not image.

  43. maze says:

    with all these busineess they had to move in with the nats??none of these are generating money hummm?

  44. eyespy says:

    Good lord Maze, anything else these grifters can get their hands into?

  45. Hadley says:

    Humble, I asked this question to Bill Shaffer; but didn’t get a reply. Hope you will be able to answer it for me. Is the state required to give Casey a plea deal? If so, what’s the point of having the DP on the table? Tks. Hadley

  46. Muesli says:

    Going to check out what’s new in the media and a few of the sites to see if there is anything new there. Then it’s time for lunch, and I’ll see you all later on. I cannot get an update of the visitation log. The last one available was for 1/26/09. Anyone have a current link?

  47. nannab says:

    They are just working on getting FreeMoney.. no jackpots yet I guess..

  48. eyespy says:

    Hiya Humble
    Great post, im with Nana though the pics are so sad.

  49. Muesli says:

    smoke & mirrors, where are you when I need you.

  50. hvf says:

    Hey I just went into the other room to see if I had any duct tape because I wanted to try a piece on my own mouth (small pc) and see what it would do. Anyone have the guts to try that? I definetly would try it but can not find any. I tried a piece of heavy clear tape used for sending boxed stuff and it was difficult to get off and left a little redness.

  51. ScRaMa says:

    sorry, I seem to be way behind again! :blush: but good morning again to Humble, Mues, Maze, Nanna, Eye, goodness.. you all came back or am I really way behind this morning? hugs

  52. eyespy says:

    Hugs to you Scrama….

  53. eyespy says:

    I will be back in a bit…housework calls!

  54. ScRaMa says:

    see ya eye :wink: forgot hvf, Hadley & whoever else but good morning hugs to you too!

  55. nannab says:

    hvf.. ouch! no way.. :lol:

    morning Sacrama

  56. nannab says:

    Housework will always be there..

  57. hvf says:

    ScRaMa GM Bye EYE

  58. hvf says:

    nannab
    Ok I am going to my daughters house and she has some duct tape and I am going to try a small piece. I will let you all know later today if I ripped my lips off.

  59. Muesli says:

    Hi again ScRaMa. I suggested that you copy and paste your last post which came after we all came to this new blog. I was just leaving, and now I feel the challenge from hvf. I’ll go see if I have any duct tape and try a little piece. Don’t want to rip my lips off.

  60. ScRaMa says:

    Humble, hope you’re reading email? :biggrin:

  61. WOW Maze….they are busy!

    Hi Hadley! The state is NOT required to give a plea deal to Casey. I think, and this is my opinion, that if there is ever another deal out there she will have to plea guilty for first degree murder.
    She had one on the table way back when she thought she was so smart and never acknowledged it.

  62. So with that said Hadley, the answer is NO! The state is not required to plea with her! (Just making that clear)

  63. hvf says:

    Humble
    Keep in mind that WF is not smart enough to know that she is not smart.

  64. maze says:

    other milsteads involved with their so called compays

    Glenn E Milstead
    •Natalie B Milstead
    •Sharon R Milstead

  65. ScRaMa says:

    Mues, I guess I could do that.. lol on hvf’s challenge & you are too funny with that duct tape.. pleez, be careful! :wink:

  66. nannab says:

    hvf.. you won’t be able to talk after.. be careful with that stuff.. it’s lethal.. lol

  67. nannab says:

    I have some cheap duct tape here and it is holding together th broken pole to my big outside umbrella..thru wind sleet snow..heat..etc etc..

  68. hvf says:

    LOL everyone……keep in mind that I am fond of my lips

  69. ScRaMa says:

    my previous post..

    WOW.. did everyone see me coming & took off? Oh well… for those of you still here.. good morning & hugs! I’ve been busy last few days so trying to catch up reading [not lurking]
    And, hugs for the great post Humble! mho.. we all know how complicated this case is because of all their lies & Bozo’s telling DumbdumbCasey if he finds anything to “contact him before going to LE” will come to be just another nail in CMA’s coffin & just one more reason why Bozo too will go down! And, now that more proof has been brought to light in the latest docs, I think they must be at this point, trying to come up with some reason for his being where Caylee’s remains were found! They have actually made CMA look more guilty & buried themselves too! Bozo cannot defend CMA because he can’t defend himself! To make this all come together, or full circle, we have to hear from DumbdumbCasey to find out who told him to go there & search, {who was he talking to on his cell that day?.. Cindy? Lee? or Bozo?] No matter what, I know this case is going to take down a lot of so called professionals who thought they were so great! They will wish they never heard of CMA! Makes me so to think they all think she’s so worth it when she deserves to go straight to H.. no pleas, nothing! Prooving once again, the theory that they all sold their souls to the killer, I mean :devil:

    ScRaMa

    11 Nov 09 at 08:15

  70. maze says:

    there is even a malory milsead..

  71. HVF, true. The fun part of it is she thinks she is! She thinks the world is as silly as her mother and will believe what ever she says! Oh, please don’t do the duct tape on your lips….but if you do, make sure it is Heckel! just kidding

  72. Muesli says:

    okay. Experiment done. It’s not so bad. I took a piece and put it across my month (not including my nose (I’m weird, not crazy)), and ripped it off. No different than a band aid. Then, I took a pastry brush and applied ashes from my ashtray to look for finger prints. Couldn’t see any. Then, I just cut off another piece of duct tape and did the same with the ashes. There my finger prints were clearly visible. Guess the contact with my face (makeup) wiped away the finger prints from the first piece. By the way, I had to use a scissor, as I couldn’t rip the tape. Perhaps Casey used the knife they found to do that.

  73. Muesli says:

    By the way, the brand I used is Nashua, produced in Kentucky.

  74. The address 1740 E road is the house that was auctioned off!

  75. ScRaMa says:

    WOW.. Eyes, I’m impressed! You are good! Sounds like you should be in forensics! Maybe CMA oily face whiped away the fingerprints? And, we all know her big arse teeth “cut thru” that tape! :biggrin:

  76. hvf says:

    Humble
    There is a term for WF’s thinking. It is called
    “Illusion of Invulnerabiliy”
    It happens because they have gotten away with so much in their life that they think that they can still get away with murder.

  77. hvf says:

    So Muesli
    Do you still have lips????

  78. hvf says:

    ScReMa
    Oh I think that they may have already compared her big arse teeth to those markings.

  79. nannab says:

    I can’t believe they followed thru with DC sniper’s sentence.. I would love to know how the A gang feels about that..

  80. Your all good ScRaMa!

    Muesli… :w00t:

    HVF, thanks I will have to remember Illusion of Invulnerability. I am laughing at your question to Muesli!

  81. nannab says:

    I think Muesli can’t move her lips..

  82. ScRaMa says:

    man, if I could just keep up! errrr.. but will brb, need another cup of mojo to finish waking up if possible.. love you guys so don’t leave me here alone?

  83. hvf says:

    Humble
    You are welcome to use that in one of your headings.
    I just want to know because I am going to try some in a little while here but ONLY a tiny piece. This way I may only loose a tiny spot.

  84. nannab says:

    put it on your legs.. u won’t hafta shave anymore…lol

  85. hvf says:

    nannab
    i will try that first

  86. Muesli says:

    My lips are only tingling a little bit. No more facial hair. :lol:

  87. Muesli says:

    Come on hvf, if I can do it, so can you. It only hurts for a little while.

  88. Muesli says:

    See you all later. I was going to go a long time ago until hvf’s duct tape challenge.

  89. Hadley says:

    Thanks Humble! I’m sure Lyon’s is busting her Angel Girdle to come up with a reason NOT to give Casey the DP! (One reason her book is out..) I think LWOP is fine..”if” she had to do labor of some kind. One thing I know, she is a clear danger to society!

    I will always believe the Anthonys have known Calee was dead since they smelled the decomp. It’s so shameful the way they have behaved.

  90. ScRaMa says:

    I’m back & Mues you are cracking me up here! But if I learned one thing from you today, it’s I will def. try the tape on my legs! I hate shaving as much as the dbf hates my hairy legs! :biggrin:

  91. hvf says:

    Ok I will try it Muesli
    It proves that it will not really tear the lips really. my daughter has some and I will go there in a bit here. Love your courage though. I would have just died if you ended up with no lips though. Love ya

  92. nannab says:

    It only hurts for a little while..that’s a song..don’t believe it.. :lol:

  93. hvf says:

    There is the “INDUSTRIAL”-extra tough though. NO one try that on their lips please!!!! I feel a sense of responsibility here. I do not want anyone in the hospital with Hinkel tape on their mouths please.
    I would feel down right horrible about that.

  94. ScRaMa says:

    I wonder if the tape would work on zit & mole removal? maybe CMA should order the duct tape instead of the junk food! Then again, maybe she doesn’t like duct tape any more, too many reminders, maybe? But not, if she still thinks her alter ego killed her child! I so don’t like her one iota!

  95. nannab says:

    hvf..guaranteed ..I won’t try it..lol

  96. hvf says:

    ScRaMa
    thank you for your post at 09:25

  97. ScRaMa says:

    welcome hvf & you started this whole duct tape thingy with Mues? You too are too funny! :wink:

  98. hvf says:

    Well I am in for helping the FBI with anything I can

  99. hvf says:

    or prosecution rather I guess

  100. Thanks Handley, I was wondering who was saying they had to. Of course I am almost sure Lyons isn’t using her marbles to think!

    bbl be safe!

  101. HVF, try vaseline on the lips first!

  102. hvf says:

    Hadley
    SHe IS a danger to society.
    BBL and will try the tape in a while

  103. eyespy says:

    Meow!!
    Ha Ha Ha Maze, love that video of milsap!He looks like he is soooooo clueless and slovenly. Kathi ROCKS!!

  104. ScRaMa says:

    WOW.. sure got “quiet” where did yall go??

  105. nannab says:

    I’m sorta here….lol it got too quiet for me so I am in and out..

  106. nannab says:

    gonna go get some things done.. bbl

  107. ScRaMa says:

    me too, but still haven’t had breakfast & it’s after lunchtime here.. guess I’ll make a salad & see yall later.. Doesn’t take much to ammuse me & this morning with the duct tape was remarkable! bbs..

  108. 13jamie says:

    the duct tape crew…

  109. lynda says:

    ouch! hi 13jamie

  110. 13jamie says:

    the pic of caylee with the crooked smile, i still think something looks to be wrong there. to me looks like she has been way too doped up…

  111. 13jamie says:

    maybe you guys duct tape crew oughtta go to caseys cell and keep saying WE ARE COMING FOR YOU!!!! or better yet see if it will take care of all those zits on her ugly back!!!

  112. lynda says:

    I always thought that picture of her looed strange. It doesn’t look like her.

  113. 13jamie says:

    it just reminds me of someone gettin out of surgery or somethin and the anethesia wearing off!!

  114. lynda says:

    looked

  115. lynda says:

    it’s creepy

  116. 13jamie says:

    everybody left me…

  117. madmaxi says:

    hi everyone, I am only here for a few but, the picture on the bottom row, and second from left is the one that haunts me.. It is very disturbing.. she has changed and it is like something serious wrong with the mouth and cheeks and eyes.. is that the one you are talking about jamie13???

  118. ScRaMa says:

    HI Jamie & Lynda, just came in for sumpin’ but out again for lunch.. man the time sure is flying by today! time to get busy w/ chores too! bbl.. hugs

  119. ScRaMa says:

    where she is gritting her teeth both pics far top left & far left bottom, she is def. showing signs of anxiety, maybe pain? & you are right, Mad & Jamie, the one with the crooked lips, is so desturbing! Out of all, does not look like her as much. Her looks change thru-out & bet a lot of these were taken just short of her demise by CMA! Most times, it infuriates me more when I see these pics, thinking how sad it is because no matter how often we look, we still all see the same things in her sweet little face.. how she suffered for how long at the hands of her killer mom! If only that damn-grandmother would have done something for her! Her singing still makes me cry! Remember, I raised all boys so have many reasons for loving this little angel! She is something very special, I know to all of us!
    dbf coming home early again so have to shootoutta here.. again, hugs & syl

  120. Hadley says:

    In my opinion, I can’t think of anyone who deserves the DP more than Casey Anthony. She is as evil as anyone I can imagine. It breaks my heart to think of the pain and torture and FEAR that little Caylee went through while she looked into the eyes of her killer. I say, bring on the needle! (even with the needle, she would not come close to the pain little Caylee went through!)

  121. Hadley says:

    Unfortunately, even if she gets the DP it could take years and years before she got the needle. At least she would be on Death Row tho.

    Scott Peterson is still around, and will probably continue to be for a long, long time. I think waiting a year is too long, not ten or more years. JMO

  122. stephanie says:

    Hello Everyone…

    Nanna…this is true about the duct tape taring skin off, especially with this duct tape. Larry said it is made with more sticky substance so it stays on better.

  123. Filipa says:

    hello folks! any hot news?
    please let me know..was there any social services look into this mothers demeanour ,prior to the child neglect accusation, due to the 31 days without a care?

  124. lynda says:

    Hi Hadley, Even lwp at 23 years old would satisfy me, but lwp isn’t enough if a prisoner gets to lounge around and do nothing. My version of lwp would certainly contain extreme hard labour, man or woman, doesn’t matter. No tv, no perks, only hard hard labour. 23 to say about 75, that would be a sentence that would satisfy me.

  125. lynda says:

    Hi Stepanie and Filipa,

  126. Hi Hadley, I am for the Dp in this case! I have come to the conclusion that anyone who is found guilty of murdering a child, should get it. They should have only one year in prison to get their affairs in order.

  127. Hi ya Steph! I remember you saying Larry said that!

    Hi Filipa. It is child neglect on her part.

    Hi Lynda, I believe she is looking at LWOP. But I like the needle better for her.

  128. stephanie says:

    Hi Filipa…I don’t think so.

    Hi Hadley…I am also for the dp for child murderers and child rapists.

    Hi Lynda…If the defense continues forward to trail and not seek a plea…I would be surprised if she didn’t get the dp. But, if she doesn’t I don’t see her getting less than lwop.

    Hi Humble…I agree

  129. I too am for the ones that rape children. They all need to have the last supper and needle!

  130. stephanie says:

    Sex offenders seem to get out of jail real wasy…we all know they won’t stop. I think it is HORRIBLE to rape anyone, but a child…I am with you Humble “last supper and a needle.”

  131. hvf says:

    i AGREE……..ANYONE THAT KILLS A CHILD SHOULD GET THE DP BUT I AM FOR DP FOR ANY FIRST DEGREE MURDER

  132. lynda says:

    Hi humble and hvf

  133. stephanie says:

    Hi Hvf…here in Texas it is an automatic capital case to murder a child.

  134. hvf says:

    and if she gets LWOP then I hope it is in a cell that is 4 X 4 feet!!!!!!!!!

  135. stephanie says:

    That should be ‘easy’ above not ‘wasy’ lol

  136. hvf says:

    stephanie
    As it should be!

  137. stephanie says:

    I agree Hvf…I wonder if we will be getting a few more docs. I am wondering if they ever went back and asked TL if he told Casey what his roommate wanted him to…she can’t stay there with Caylee. I am real curious about that.

  138. Hi Lynda!

    Steph, if they were just mean in everyone state! :lol:

    HVF….tape results???

  139. hvf says:

    Humble
    It will have to be later today……my daughter did not have any but my honey may. I will see him in a few minutes.

  140. stephanie says:

    Why am I real curious if TL ever told Casey? It wouldn’t have been to far before she murdered Caylee and wondering if he told her the night of the big fight. I don’t think casey needed to hear this to murder Caylee. But, I do think it would have added to it. I believe Casey killed Caylee to have the life she wanted and to also get away from CIndy…i really don’t believe it had anything to do with hating or getting back at Cindy. But, in Casey’s mind she couldn’t have the life she wanted because of Caylee…Caylee also kept her dependent on her mom…not that she was, but she was. I also believe if she could have she would have gone to TL’s that night, but she didn’t she just stayed on the phone..texting all night with him. I am wondering if he told her that night.

  141. LOL! Run over to Michaels crafts, they have a whole bunch of cool colors, florescent pink, yellow, green, dark blue…it does on and on………. :lol:

  142. stephanie says:

    What are you all doing with the tape??

  143. lynda says:

    Why would 20 something college boys want a 3 year old little girl living with them. cma is the kind who would make up a story about one of them molesting Caylee if they split up. Maybe the freind got that vibe.

  144. lynda says:

    Steph, trying to see what kind of damage the tape does to ones skin. Also, see how much hair it pulls out. lol

  145. stephanie says:

    Humble…lol

  146. stephanie says:

    Lynda…the friend was the only one thinking, I am kind of wondering if it was the roommates girlfriend that pushed this. She was the only one that didn’t think Casey worked and that she didn’t watch her close enough. The roommate said because the drugs they do Caylee shouldn’t be there.

  147. stephanie says:

    Larry has some of that real old grey duct tape Casey used, but not the same brand…he never heard of that brand before. I asked him to find it and so far I think he put me on the back burner, lol.

  148. I never thought of that. I always thought that TL saying he wanted only boys added to it!

  149. Lyndia yep that is what HVF and Muesli are doing it for! LOL

    Steph from Muesli:

    okay. Experiment done. It’s not so bad. I took a piece and put it across my month (not including my nose (I’m weird, not crazy)), and ripped it off. No different than a band aid. Then, I took a pastry brush and applied ashes from my ashtray to look for finger prints. Couldn’t see any. Then, I just cut off another piece of duct tape and did the same with the ashes. There my finger prints were clearly visible. Guess the contact with my face (makeup) wiped away the finger prints from the first piece. By the way, I had to use a scissor, as I couldn’t rip the tape. Perhaps Casey used the knife they found to do that.

    Muesli
    11 Nov 09 at 09:28

  150. stephanie says:

    Larry doesn’t like me to bother him while he is working, lol. I did ask when he used this tape long ago if he ever got it stuck on him…and if it would pull hair off and skin. He said it depends on how long it has been on there. He said if you are talking about Caylee…it could maybe more so because her skin would be more sensitive..but might still depend on the length of time. He said if it is like they said and was made for ac ducts…it is heavy bonded tape.

  151. stephanie says:

    Someone else did the test…can’t remember who. I know I use duct tape all the time, but I am able to tare it with my hands.

  152. stephanie says:

    You know she would have to duct tape her hands or tie them up to…Caylee would pull it off her face if her hands were free

  153. I figured if it was on there long, it would rip the skin off, but who knows with Casey, she might have used it daily until Caylee went to sleep and removed it!

    Isn’t Muesli funny using ashes to see her prints on the tape!

  154. maze says:

    I have never had to use a knife or anything to tear duct tape it rips easily for me.

  155. stephanie says:

    That is funny Humble…I am ready for another doc dump. I know I haven’t finished the last, but I am ready for latent prints docs…along with Mallory’s interview.

  156. stephanie says:

    Hi Maze…Maybe we are just overly strong, lol.

  157. maze says:

    steph not as strong as I used to be lol

  158. maze says:

    when is the check trial?

  159. stephanie says:

    Pre-trial is next month…that is all I can think of right now, lol.

    Well either we are still overly strong or our duct tape is really cheap duct tape, lol.

  160. :blush: There are sometimes I can’t rip mine but that heavy super duty red is something else!

  161. stephanie says:

    I have never seen colored duct tape before…that is too funny. But, we have bought lots of colored electric tape for soccer…they would put it around their socks or something, lol.

  162. lynda says:

    I work at a very LARGE Home Center, and we have all kinds of duct tape in all colours. We are the Depot of duct tape.lol

  163. Just when you thought duct tape was just for ducts:

    http://www.michaels.com/art/online/projectsheet?pid=c00214

    Make duct tape rose’s!

  164. debwv says:

    My youngest son is a duct tape master LOL. He duct tape things he can’t fixs. He was unloading the groceries off my truck Sunday,and the lock broke off.Told him when he fixs it no duct tape :lol:

  165. stephanie says:

    Humble, Lynda and Deb…too funny

    By the way that is the brand we use

  166. lynda says:

    I’ve heard of clothing being made out of duct tape. I don’t know where but I know I heard it.

  167. debwv says:

    Did you see the prom dresses made with duct. These girls did a really good job.

  168. Debwv. too funny!

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