Chit Chat JVM and NG 10Dec09

Chit chat JVM  and NG are on….

Even if you don’t watch JVM and/or NG you are welcome to join in the chat!

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183 Responses to Chit Chat JVM and NG 10Dec09

  1. eoar34 says:

    1st

  2. mikka says:

    eoar how are you??

  3. eoar34 says:

    I’m ok mikka, how bout you?

  4. mikka says:

    i am so nervos,when i think on tomorrow! :dizzy:

  5. mikka says:

    eoar i am o.k ,tired,lazy ,its cold! :w00t:

  6. eoar34 says:

    what time is the big shin dig?

  7. Molly says:

    o.k., gotta get up early tomorrow for this.
    mikka, set your alarm, it’s 6:30am for you isn’t it? ugh

    Hi steph!

  8. mikka says:

    eoar you are back to work yet??

  9. eoar34 says:

    cold here too Mikka, wind chill -9

  10. Molly says:

    Now I gotta get up at 9:00 for a pre show??????

  11. eoar34 says:

    no mikka, not yet, not until jan4th

  12. Stephanie says:

    Molly they did. But, her boss said that he was the one transferring her. He was training her for management positon. She was transferred to the office light duty because she brought a note from doctor(probably cindy). Than she went off had Caylee and only came back to the office once to show Caylee to them. Her boss had never seen Casey again. He said she was fired because of job abandonment. He also said in order to go to work for Universal when that all happened…you had to go to this seminar of something like this. He said Casey did NOT attend and wouldn’t have been able to work for Universal. But, in the docs it shows they fired her in April of 2006 or somewhere like that. Someone said maybe that was the official date because of what ever their regulations might be.

  13. mikka says:

    molly huh ,its early for me ! :w00t:

  14. eoar34 says:

    ok without wondering what planet i’ve been visiting, what exactly is going on tomorrow

  15. Molly says:

    Eoar – !!!! minus 9 where are you? I thought it was cold here.

  16. mikka says:

    eoar,thats good,relax a little bit more!

  17. mikka says:

    molly by me too,here is 13 f and its cold!

  18. eoar34 says:

    Molly I m in Ohio. temp is 13 with 40mph winds wind chill -9

  19. madmaxi says:

    wow eoar,, first!!! and you beat mikka??? I am amazed..I am going to go eat my fish dinner and maybe be back later,,, but, for sure I will be here in the morning for vinnie and the hearing… thanks humble.. :heart:

  20. Molly says:

    Thanks steph :smile:

    eoar – court appearance tomorrow. several motions.

  21. mikka says:

    she say on hln today,the prosecution subpoena teh anthonys and conwheel and not the defense,interesting!

  22. eoar34 says:

    thanks molly what time (florida time)

  23. mikka says:

    madi bye see ya!

  24. mikka says:

    eoar 9.30 florida time!

  25. eoar34 says:

    bye maxi, enjoy dinner

  26. Suzie Jane says:

    Eoar – TruTV tomorrow morning 9 am WF is live in court.

    Be there!

  27. eoar34 says:

    thanks Mikka

  28. Molly says:

    It was in the 30′s here today, but wicked cold winds. I don’t know what the wind chill was, but very cold!

  29. eoar34 says:

    no one will have it online?

  30. mikka says:

    suzie yes,this idiots on in session was talking pro bozo,he have no privacy in jail and bla,bla,bla!!

  31. mikka says:

    eoar,yes ,wesh,wftv,chanel 13 will have it!

  32. eoar34 says:

    again, thank you Mikka!

  33. Molly says:

    bye maxi

    mikka – the prosecution called them!! wow, I’m curious now what they’re going to ask them!

  34. Molly says:

    I don’t understand what baez’s big deal is with being video’d. If nothing to hide, what is the big deal. What is he planning on doing?

  35. eoar34 says:

    niters all

  36. Molly says:

    g’nite eoar! see ya tomoorrow!

  37. mikka says:

    tomorrow is 1 year ago,she find caylee,will the anthonys tomorrow go back to the nice hotel and eat steak and crap! :angry:

  38. mikka says:

    molly ,i was thinking all teh time the defense called them,or hln had it wrong!

  39. maze says:

    darn i will still be sleeping when it starts…

  40. Molly says:

    mikka – If they’re gonna be on the stand by prosecution, I don’t think they’ll be celebrating!!! hahahahahahaha

  41. mikka says:

    eoar,nighty!

  42. madmaxi says:

    bye and love to you all,, mikka, eoar, molly , stephanie, humble, suzie jane,, and eastcoastdeb when she comes on board…. nite all… and justice for little caylee…

  43. mikka says:

    molly,geo will say i dont cant remember,cindy will chewing gum and smiling!!

  44. Molly says:

    I “assumed” it was the defense too!

  45. mikka says:

    maze,sleep is better than to watch this farce from the defense!

  46. mikka says:

    molly,we will see,but i am sure,no matter how,both will lie and conwheel too!

  47. Molly says:

    They better not get snotty on the stand! Stricky won’t like that.

  48. mikka says:

    madi gnight! see ya! :wink:

  49. mikka says:

    moly :lol: the last time stricky told geo ANSWER THAT QUESTION!! hahahahhhaha

  50. Molly says:

    This should be interesting with them. To see how they handle themselves & whatever questions they’re asked.

  51. maze says:

    hopefully I will be able to watch it somehwere after the fact

  52. Molly says:

    g’nite maxi! sleep well

    mikka – I remember that! They can NOT pull what they did in Morgan’s depo!!!

  53. Molly says:

    maze – when it’s over, they usually post it on utube pretty quickly.

  54. maze says:

    That is good to know molly

  55. maze says:

    we know what bozoz wants remeber that one pic????

  56. mikka says:

    humble thats dark curtains,in the new photos are dark curtains too,same appartment!

  57. maze says:

    wonder if geo and cindy saw that one..

  58. Molly says:

    someone in Miami puts up lots of Christmas lights, deco’s, etc.. $ 4,000.00 electric bill!!!!!!! they hire people to help them too!!

  59. maze says:

    jvm has caylee on

  60. Molly says:

    maze – I think you’re right about what he wants! lol :lol:

  61. maze says:

    already over now here comes tigggggggggggggggggerrrrrrrrrrr

  62. mikka says:

    maze i dont will watch jvm!!

  63. Molly says:

    Those dark circles under her eyes always bothered me

  64. maze says:

    shes good with her mouth “oopps”

  65. mikka says:

    maze HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAAHAH :lol:

  66. mikka says:

    molly,yes caylee dont had enough sleep!

  67. maze says:

    just channel surfing here Mikka I cannot stand either one anymore

  68. Molly says:

    I can’t watch jvm either. what did she say?

    oh tiger, tiger, tiger. wth
    He should just chck into rehab for sex addiction

  69. Suzie Jane says:

    #54 Thank you Humble. Don’t you agree this is probably just about the last day of Caylee’s life. This is at Tony’s, right?

    But she is not wearing the Trouble jammies….yet :-(

  70. mikka says:

    molly :lol:

    look this ugly biatches (mistresses)
    its time teh media leave him alone and move on!!

  71. mikka says:

    suzie,good call,no date from teh photos!but i am sure L.E know it,when this pictures are taken!

  72. Molly says:

    mikka – tiger story too juicy for them! and it just keeps growing with more women every day.

  73. Stephanie says:

    I don’t want to hear about Tiger. But, I do have to say this girl that is talking about feeling bad…than why did she go public??

  74. Molly says:

    I agree steph, why go public?

  75. maze says:

    I love how they call them mistresses lol,and I heard Elin is staying… what a fool

  76. maze says:

    no wonder he plays golf he likes getting his balls in the hole..ahahhahhah

  77. mikka says:

    steph,she is a home wrecker and is money hungry!!

  78. Molly says:

    maze – she is!! $$$$ talks

  79. ScRaMa says:

    GE Mikka, Molly, Maze, Steph & whoever hasn’t left for good night’s sleep before the big hearing in the morn..
    I can’t stay just popin’ in to comment on the wage statement..
    wssn’t one of her school chums [brain f--t, can't think who now, duh] babysitting Caylee for a few months then told KC she no longer felt it right to when she found out KC was actually going out partying with friends & not really working.. whenever that was is when Casey was not working& thereafter! btw.. anyone can print out an old statement then write in anything to print out again.. I’ve done this with old logic problems to redo so it’s simple.. if KC did this she did this hurriedly w/o thought of doing the math, therefore maybe getting the wrong dates in there?? at this point who knows.. this whole case leaves one’s head spining again & aghain..
    Humble.. have you check’d u’r email?
    Mikki & Steph- miss you both.. hugs
    see ya tomorrow :kissing:

  80. Stephanie says:

    Molly…If she really felt bad for Elin she would NEVER have gone public. Nobody would have known and if she felt Elin should know…she could have contacted her instead of through the media. They all want the money and attention, imo.

  81. mikka says:

    maze hahahaahhahahhaha :blush:

  82. mikka says:

    scrama :smile:

  83. mikka says:

    steph,i agree with you,she is a naive ,stupid,dumm idiot girl!

  84. Stephanie says:

    Mikka…I totally agree about these sl*ts

    Hi Scrama…Been missing you
    Casey’s friend did sit and found out she wasn’t even working. Don’t know that she was partying but she wasn’t working. The Grunds never found that out as far as I know…they also sat

  85. mikka says:

    scrama see ya tomorrow :kissing:

  86. Stephanie says:

    I agree Mikka except I don’t know how naive she is. I think maybe she was when it came to Tiger, but she isn’t when it comes to the media….she is playing it up. I would be too ashamed and would be hiding my face and praying nobody ever found out about me.

  87. Stephanie says:

    By Scrama…I won’t be here for the hearing. But, i hope to see you after that

  88. mikka says:

    must cook now,see ya later :wink:

  89. Stephanie says:

    Casey was hired in June of 2004 as a full time employee…she would get maternity leave.

  90. Stephanie says:

    Bye Mikka…I am going to cook something too.

  91. Molly says:

    me too, stomach grumbling
    see ya all tomorrow! we’ll have much to talk about!

  92. Suzie Jane says:

    #78 Steph – who is Michael Hamilton in these docs? :eek:

  93. Stephanie says:

    I don’t know Suzie…I only know Mike Kozak the boss of Casey. But if you go down in the doc you will see when Casey was hired and when she was terminated. Also i was reading Jeffery’s and he was a part time and moved around…his info said he was a casual worker. Where as Casey’s says regular…this is why I don’t think she was moved around, but it still doesn’t make sense to me.

  94. smoke&mirrors says:

    Hi Everyone,

    Casey’s Fantasy World – Michael Hamilton:
    Michael Hamilton – Universal Studios management. Here is the fake e-mail address created by Casey: (mike.hamilton @ yahoo.com)

    “Real” Mike Hamilton

    Mike D. Hamilton – worked for Finnegan’s Bar & Grill in Universal (6/2004 – 10/2004)
    Mike P. Hamilton – worked for Island of Adventure (7/2004 – 4/2007)
    Mike J. Hamilton – worked for Hard Rock Corp. (2/1998 – 10/1999)

  95. Stephanie says:

    Suzie…where are you seeing Michael Hamilton?

  96. Stephanie says:

    Thank you Smoke…i was really confused, lol

  97. smoke&mirrors says:

    YW Stephanie! :smile:

  98. Stephanie says:

    Smoke…This is the first time I noticed on those employment records…If Casey was moved around where needed she would have been called a casual worker. I got that from Jeffrey’s employment record, lol

  99. Stephanie says:

    They just mentioned Billy Joel on the station I am watching…Yesterday I recorded the 25 anniversary of rock and roll hall of fame…it is sooooo good.

  100. Suzie Jane says:

    Steph, something just seems so off. Kodak/Universal should have much more professional-looking paperwork and I just can’t ditch the feeling that it is counterfeit – and WHY??

    Now I’m obsessing :lol: Nite nite for court tomorrow :yawn:

  101. smoke&mirrors says:

    I believe Jeff was only working P/T in his junior year of high school.

  102. Stephanie says:

    Night Suzie…This info was coming to them from someone at Universal…

  103. Stephanie says:

    He was only working part time. But, if Casey was moved around she would not have been a regular employee…she would have been concerted a casual employee…at least I would think they would.

  104. Stephanie says:

    I just don’t see how her boss that told them she abandoned her job wouldn’t have been informed that she was moved to a different department…that makes no sense.

  105. Stephanie says:

    It also makes no sense that she was payed for so long afterwards…Even Lauren discovered she wasn’t working and quit watching Caylee. Someone said long ago maybe they had to wait a certain amount of time before terminating….But, than why pay her?

  106. smoke&mirrors says:

    Delores Crawford (aka: Dee) – Director, HR at EVENT IMAGING SOLUTIONS GROUP (a Kodak co.) verified Casey’s employment record as 6/24/04 – 11/26/05.

  107. smoke&mirrors says:

    Casey’s “Customer History Report” at AMSCOT – Application to cash checks completed and signed 11/15/2005
    • Name of Spouse: Jesse G.
    • Name of Relative: – Cynthia M. Anthony with a bogus ph. # (407) 808-5172
    • [this phone # is one digit diff. from Lee’s cell phone #]
    • Payroll Checks Cashed at AMSCOT
    • Event Imaging Solutions – 12/23/05 (chk date)
    • Ceridian 12/30/05, 1/13/06, 2/10/06, 2/24/06, & 3/10/06 (chk dates)

  108. Suzie Jane says:

    Oh Gawd Steph – I can’t stay away! Hi S&M!

    How can we find out how WF held that job thru 9 months of pregnancy and post partum and still got paid like that? Huh?

    And why on earth would she abandon a job like that with a newborn? Newborns take $$

    Maybe the escort position opened up…. :lol:

  109. eoar34 says:

    steph, are you still here

  110. smoke&mirrors says:

    ColorVision bought out Event Imaging in 2006. I believe it was April 2006. This is the company Mike Kozak was referring to when he spoke about the transfer to the new company. Casey did not transfer.

    It is possible that Casey went to another sub-contractor company [name unknown] after leaving Event Imaging and they also assigned her to work on-site at Universal.

  111. Suzie Jane says:

    Wow Smoke – you are excellent!

    Who is Ceridian???

  112. smoke&mirrors says:

    Hi Suzie & Eoar! :smile:

  113. smoke&mirrors says:

    Ceridian is an HR services company that many companies outsource to, especially to handle payroll.

  114. Stephanie says:

    I am here Eoar..

    Smoke..Do you think those late pay dates could be making up for Maternity leave?

  115. Suzie Jane says:

    Thanx Smoke! Makes sense. Nothing else in this case does though.

  116. eoar34 says:

    steph you have mail

  117. smoke&mirrors says:

    Caylee was born 9 August 2005. We do not have enough history to show how long Casey took off for Maternity Leave.

  118. Stephanie says:

    I just can’t see her going somewhere else and working…I really think once she didn’t work she really enjoyed that. She did work for a little over a year at Kodak…Plus he was going to train her for management position…This would be more money. Why wouldn’t she go back instead of starting all over. Plus those months she is getting paid…Lauren also discovered she didn’t work and wouldn’t sit anymore. None of it makes any sense at all. Unless it was a part of the maternity leave she did’t get

  119. Stephanie says:

    No Eoar…You do, lol

  120. smoke&mirrors says:

    Suzie,

    We are all still trying to put together the pieces of the puzzle. Too often tough we do not have all of the pieces or the Ants have miscontrued the truth so badly, it leaves us scratching our heads! :lol:

  121. eoar34 says:

    ah, i think its your turn Steph

  122. Stephanie says:

    Smoke…Do you mean Kodak/Imagining Solutions hired her out as a sub contractor?

  123. smoke&mirrors says:

    Lauren Gibbs stopped babysitting for Casey in April 2006 when Caylee was about 8 mos. old. Casey told her she was working at the Sports Authority at that time. Lauren said Casey lied to her about that.

    I am not going to rack my brain about what Casey was being paid for and when. Based on what we do know it appears Casey’s last time worked ocurred within the same time period as when Lauren stopped keeping Caylee.

  124. smoke&mirrors says:

    Event Imaging Solutions was a sub-contract company for Universal.

  125. Stephanie says:

    Your turn Eoar, lol

  126. eoar34 says:

    lol

  127. Suzie Jane says:

    Smoke, I’m gonna have to start wearing a helmet!!! These people drive me nuts.

    I can’t wait for my WF saga fix in the morning. And this time, I’m really going :lol: Love ya XOXO

  128. Stephanie says:

    I still think something is wrong with it…If her boss was having her fired for abandonment of job…why would they put her somewhere else and/or not mention any of it to him?
    Plus why would she say she was working for Sports Authority if she had a real job? None of it makes sense…like I said earlier about the graduation code on her transcript and she didn’t graduate.

  129. smoke&mirrors says:

    :lol: Suzie

  130. eoar34 says:

    your turn, thanks steph!!!!

  131. smoke&mirrors says:

    Steph have you ever been with a company during a merger? I got the sense from Miike Kozak’s interview that he was speculating about Casey being fired for job abandonment. He may have simply lost track of her once she did not transfer to the new company, ColorVision. IDK

  132. smoke&mirrors says:

    These paychecks certainly suggest Casey was working:

    Ceridian 12/30/05, 1/13/06, 2/10/06, 2/24/06, & 3/10/06 (chk dates)

  133. ScRaMa says:

    like Suzie, I couldn’t stay away..
    S&M.. I thought so, that was the same timeframe Casey stopped working! thanks! And, Steph, yesss I remember now, it was Lauren who babysat her then! big Scrama hugs to you both! I wish i had more time to do all the “homework” you two do! I will sit here for awhile tho eating late dinner..
    hey, Eoar & Steph, I want email too.. lol :wink:

  134. smoke&mirrors says:

    Hi ScRaMa,

    Good to see ya! :smile:

  135. Suzie Jane says:

    Steph I totally agree. (Every time I try to sign off, I can’t!)

    What is the purpose behind this payroll thing? What are they trying to hide/distort here with this document? I’m with you it deserves further investigation by some one?????

  136. ScRaMa says:

    oh, you too S&M.. always good to see you at your best.. doing all that work! :kissing:

  137. eoar34 says:

    did NG just admit shes a eeyore? lol

  138. eastcoastdeb says:

    HI everyone. I heard on JVM that the Anthonys are subpoened in relationship to Dominic Casey. Sounds like fun.

  139. ScRaMa says:

    a what, eoar?? lol

  140. Stephanie says:

    I have been with my x through 2 mergers. Idk…I think Mike was taking her under his wing and also thought she could do more…that is why he wanted to train her into management. She could have been working…It has been a while since I have been around large companies. But, I don’t remember anyone that lost track of a person like that…Maybe Mike shouldn’t be in the position he is.

    I am going to read his interview again

  141. smoke&mirrors says:

    Suzie,

    Anymore it is very commonplace for companies to reduce the cost of processing payroll by outsourcing it to companies like Ceridian, Paychex and others. It just makes good business sense. Ceridian is only the name of the company that issued Casey’s paychecks in the 1st Qrtr. of 2006, but it is not the name of the company she was working for. We do not have the name of that company or if we do I missed it.

  142. Stephanie says:

    Hi again Scrama…Hugs back to you

    Hi East…I am hoping to catch some of it. I really want to see Cindy on the stand and how she acts. I also want to see Casey’s reaction to Cindy.

  143. eoar34 says:

    she said ” I am a jack*zz” she really said tiger should admit that, but i thought it was funny she said it lol

  144. eastcoastdeb says:

    Me too Steph. I really hope they put her in her place. I want her ‘grinch face’ publicized all over the place again.
    Eoar, I think someone should grab that Tiger by the tail and dismember it.

  145. smoke&mirrors says:

    Hi eastcoastdeb! :smile:

  146. eastcoastdeb says:

    Hi Smoke. :smile: Are you all ready for the trial tomorrow?

  147. ScRaMa says:

    how many of us woman have worked up until our babies were born then were put on termination & got paid for it after our babies were born. I know I worked a long time before & after all my kids but never paid much at all when off & I went back w/in a week after each child. guess it depends on what our job was.. mine, was a desk so not bad but still did a lot of walking around for others.. I am completely baffled as to her actually duties & still question she even made but mere monies.. why would anyone hire someone in this position without a hs dipoloma anyway, it doesn’t click with me!
    oh well, back to my dinner.. on the side

  148. eastcoastdeb says:

    Scrama,Casey’s only ‘duty’ was walking around Orlando with a mattress on her back.

  149. Stephanie says:

    Mike must be wrong, but I don’t think he is about the abandonment…it shows the last day she worked there was April 23 rd but her last check in March 10th.

  150. Stephanie says:

    My mom lied about how far along she was to continue working…I don’t know that she had maternity leave, but went back to the same office afterwards.

  151. Hi everyone, on for just a minute. I know when I worked, we had a Family and Medical Leave Act, and the woman got paid for baby leave. Of course not all company’s have it in there, but it is becoming a bog thing.

  152. smoke&mirrors says:

    eastcoastdeb,

    After my last experience, I promised myself I would not do that again. Due to the buffering I missed that all important argument Baez made to Judge Strickland about members of his duhfense team being “technically challenged.”

    That was the reason Judge Strickland reversed his own decision about the release of the autopsy photos. That said, I will wait until at least 1 or 2 hours before viewing the hearing tomorrow.

    So, I’ll read comments form others on the blog before I invest time in watching the video.

  153. smoke&mirrors says:

    Hi Humble :smile:

  154. eoar34 says:

    humble, thats the law now FMLA is nation wide and the law

  155. Stephanie says:

    There are many companies now that also give a maternity leave to the father

  156. Stephanie says:

    Hi Humble…how are you?

  157. eoar34 says:

    that is the law too Steph paternity leave is part of FMLA

  158. I think she lied on her application for work. Of course if the question is asked, did you graduate, she would say yes. IF they would have checked they would have figure out she didn’t. Also Universal is just like Seal world here, they hire the kids.

  159. smoke&mirrors says:

    FMLA only guarantees time off without lose of job. It is at a no pay status unless you have sick, vacation or other personal leave paid time to clock off with the FMLA. When out of all paid time, it is at a NO PAY status.

  160. Hi ya Smoke, Eoar, Steph, ECDeb ScRaMa and any one I missed!

  161. eoar34 says:

    exactly right smoke, thanks

  162. eastcoastdeb says:

    Good idea Smoke and far easier on the nerves. LOL

  163. Stephanie says:

    Eoar…so it is in law for men too? That is good

  164. Suzie Jane says:

    First of all #136 Sorry Scrama – it was you :love: Can’t stay away!

    OK back to Ceridian. Apparently, WF no longer worked for EIS with these 2006 paycheck activities at AMSCOT. A company like Kodak would never hire outside payroll companies. Part of being a big company is that all that confidential info stays in house.

    So who was she working for??? I smell fish…

  165. Smoke, when reading up on it, the company can choose how they work it! There are requirements set forth by the company. The company I worked for paid employees..

  166. smoke&mirrors says:

    I think it is wonderful for men to share in the responsiblity of caring for the children, so it makes a lot of sense to have this benefit apply to anyone who has primary care responsiblities. We’ve come a long ways baby! Woo hoo!

  167. ScRaMa says:

    GE, Humble..
    some here were lucky getting paid for time off, not so lucky here to have that when I was having my babies [huhhummmm] .. just lucky to have a good job to go back to with a few days pay off. They called it termination back then too as if you were fired! I hated that word & actually had to call after my first baby was born to ask if I still had a job & they said yes but that was just a term they used! duh!

  168. Stephanie says:

    Casey can lie about graduating…remember for some reason her transcripts say she graduated. I sure wish we knew if she somehow had that copy or if it was computer generated…that still bothers me, lol

  169. Stephanie says:

    Scrama…I bet that is what my mom did..

  170. smoke&mirrors says:

    Humble, unless you got that directly from someone in HR it is not necessarily a given that the pay was not coming from other personel paid time earned. All most ppl. who get paid care about is that they are getting paid.

  171. ScRaMa says:

    lol Steph, are you calling me “old” ?? j/k hug

  172. Stephanie says:

    Never Scrama…I still feel like I am in my twenties and I know you are only about 27

  173. Stephanie says:

    Scrama…how far along would you have to be before they made you take off from work?

  174. Your right Smoke, the policy at the company I worked for gave it to them. It was in their policy. NOT all company’s do that.

    The military also give the service member 2 weeks off after the baby is born. That is new, and hasn’t been around long.

  175. smoke&mirrors says:

    Yeah Humble, the military is all about taking care of the family. And rightly so! :smile:

    It does not surprise me tough that some companies are finding better ways to make it work in support of Work/Family life goals. As long as their practices are uniformly administered and not with only a select few, those companies that have taken this federal law (FMLA) to a new level are to be commended!

  176. What the heck, I am 29…am I the oldest one here?

  177. ScRaMa says:

    Steph, with my first, I worked up until he was born, He was my premmie! the others, well, I’d really have to go way back there so can’t remember back that far
    I jsut remember the first by then I knew termination meant I still had a job to go back to
    and, yes.. I am only 27. thank you very much! :wink:

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