More from the trial, videos and treatment!

Well, we know that Casey had a bad day in court! The tears flew, the anger level rose, and the facts came out! It is just due time before there is JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE! [Yes it is still about Caylee]

I must hit on the motion for the videoing and the fraud trial! Baez states that he wants his “MY GIRL” to be treated like the rest. Judge Strickland said she will. Jail time and fines, she has no priors.

BUT it wasn’t long before that, they were up at the pulpit wanting “no video taping” of the visits from Family and friend. And that hey don’t want their attorney/client session “video taped”! They want the video’s of the visits with family and friend destroyed. WHY? Is there something to hide? Casey is 100% innocent, so it has been said on national tv. What could they hide and what could get them in trouble? Baez has been told to request a different room for his little attorney/client visits. Camera’s do not record the attorney/client visits, they are just monitored.

Tamara Gappen, OC, said “Orange County can’t just be required to modify its jail security procedures for one inmate.”

So why do they want no video taping for their infamous client, but they want their client to be treated right?  Giving her special privileges, but treat her right!  Cindy and George have not gone to the jail because they will be video taped, come on get a better excuse than that! Cindy will go on national TV and lie her head off, why can’t she play the grieving grandma at the jail??!!  I am going to call all of this hog wash…Baez and his group of attorney’s are trying very hard to make themselves famous.  They are about themselves.  There is no need to stop the videoing at the jail, nor watching them either.  Baez has already been chastised for hugging his client, what more does he plan to do?  I guess Cindy and George will have to wait until the prison setting is set up and she is there before they visit!

Just a hit of who is who in the world of mother’s who kill:
Susan Smith not a celebrity, just a known name! Her attorney, couldn’t tell you the name.
Andrea Yates not a celebrity, just a known name! Her attorney, couldn’t tell you the name.

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173 Responses to More from the trial, videos and treatment!

  1. Muesli says:

    mikka, Good morning to you, and hearts back to you. I don’t know how to make a heart. That hearing yesterday was emotionally draining. And, this is only a drop in the bucket of things to come. I have to admit that I really do feel for Cindy and George (in spite of all their previous stupid antics). What they had to hear yesterday must be unbearable, because they know that someone killed her, but don’t want to know the details–they are just too painful. But, the details have to come out–this is a murder trial. I don’t know how they will be able to sit through the actual trial, and still keep their sanity. I wouldn’t be able to.

  2. lynda says:

    Goodmorning Mikka and Muesli,I too agree with that Muesli, the truth hurts more than anyone could ever know.p to now g&c have been living in a bubble of denial. Up to now they never really had to hear the details of what Caylee endured at the end of her life. So now reality has been laid out. I would find it unbearable to sit through it myself. But you find the strength. look at Scott Petersons parents, they had to listen to what a monster their son was, and what he did to his beautiful wife Laci and unborn son Connor. they sat there day after day, as did her parents. In my opinion, they have way more eveidence on cma than they did on SP. He’s on death row. The a’s have to put Caylee back in the equation and see that she gets Justice. It’s only about her. No one else.

  3. carlavan says:

    Good morning all! Well things are starting to happen! What a wonderful day for Caylee (poor baby has had so few). I had a few observations to make. One I think D.Casey is a real smoking gun and BozoChorizo was real upset that he couldn’t be there. I truly believe that kc told them where she put the baby. The other thing is Lyons may be a genius but she is BORING and I think could put a jury to sleep. The state on the other hand can keep you on the edge of your seat. Jeff (?) did a wonderful job in 2 minutes yesterday describing what probably happened to Caylee. And Humble I loved that you captured the ANGRY kc, prior to crying. I got the feeling bozo whispered “no, no, sad – not mad”! right before. I really thought if that could have gone on a little longer she would have jumped up in a fit of anger and really flipped, maybe that’s why Lyons was holding her arm.

  4. mikka says:

    muesli,lynda,carlavan :biggrin:

    carlavan how are you??i dont saw you for a long time!

  5. mikka says:

    muesli,i feel me like hell today,yeah drained is teh right word!

  6. mikka says:

    lynda conwheel say after,the anthonys want the truth,hahahhahaahah when geo and c run in the middle of ashtons speak out,she know today what is teh truth,when she dont run out!

  7. MeMa 52 says:

    morning everyone
    carlavan…I had the same thoughts when I watched Lyons hold on to Crazey…didnt look like she was supporting her but restraining her…she was mad that Ashton was describing what may have actually happened…I think it was more of a flash back reaction…and when Lyons said Crazey has nobody to tell her she is loved…sympathy tears for herself was all I saw

  8. mikka says:

    i bet when cma go back to her cell yesterday,she order a xanax!she dont cant live without!

  9. mikka says:

    mema : :smile: i find lyons and bozo dont really care when she cry!

  10. Muesli says:

    One of the problems with our society is that there seems to be a preconceived notion of what a murderer looks like. When you get murderers who are decent looking, i.e., Scott Peterson, Ted Bundy, Casey Anthony, people find it more difficult to believe that these good looking people are capable of such atrocious crimes, just because they don’t meet up to their conception of the crazed killer look. That fallacy has to be overcome, and jurors have to concentrate on the facts and evidence. One does not need a motive or a cause of death to convict. Example: Scott Peterson. We can guess at his motive, but the cause of Laci”s death was never established. How can Ms. Lyon state that there is no proof of this murder being heinous? A two year old’s death is, by definition, heinous. They are helpless, and at the mercy of their murderer, regardless of how they were murdered. This is going to be one messy, tedious trial.

  11. MeMa 52 says:

    mikka :lol: I think bozo might of told her to cry at one time..loved how you could hear her say to Lyons to make Jeff stop..and her answer was “I cant”

  12. mikka says:

    mema,may bozo get pissed,because the microphones dont sh.. really off,the next motion about this will come! :lol:

  13. mikka says:

    mema,yeah cma think she is still teh boss,her words “stop him”,its arrogant!but it was a lesson for her,she is NO more teh boss!

  14. mikka says:

    muesli,lyons and bozo must work on,does cma get better clothes!

  15. mikka says:

    muesli when lyons say,may caylee died on a natural dead,i was thinking,i lost my mind!

  16. mikka says:

    you hear yesterday linda (prosecution) how she start about kronks wife,its illegal….. ,and stricky told her no the another motion hahahahaha

  17. Muesli says:

    By the way, I think we also need to send a representative from this site to the next court hearing, I’m sure we can get a seat in the front row and push ourselves onto all the important players in this case. Then we can see for ourselves what the actual demeanor of everyone is, viewing it from our point of view. Do we have anyone who lives in Orange County? I think Johninforida is close, but not in Orange County, itself. I am 3 hrs. away, so not very likely that I could go.

  18. MeMa 52 says:

    mikka..I wouldnt put it past Bozo to file something about his microphone
    I think the most profound statement was Ashton saying Caylee was intelligent enough and old enough to take the tape off of her if she wasnt somehow restrained and that the tape remained on Caylee when she was found

  19. Muesli says:

    oops, I am in moderation. That’s okay. It’s not the first time. I didn’t use any swear words or bash anyone. Just a thought. Oh, well.

  20. MeMa 52 says:

    muesli…I went to moderation too…think it maybe wordpress problem

  21. lynda says:

    I have 5 more minutes before I leave for work :sad: but as I watched the drama unfold yestarday you could see the anger in cma’s eyes as Ashton unveiled the scenario of Caylee’s murder. The eyes looked the same as the infamous jailhouse video meltdown. Then the tears. cma’s not used to other people having control. This time she cannot manipulate the situation. Ashton was right on, beleivable, and to the point. The duh team is spitting in the wind. Their theories are shot. Let them try to stand up to Ashton and company in front of jurors and claim cma’s innocence. There’s no way. If they have the proof, like they claim, let them bring it on.

  22. mikka says:

    mema,i think duct tape it goes hard off,and i think caylee dont cant take it off with her hands!

  23. Muesli says:

    Ashton was basing his opinion of Caylee’s above average maturity and intelligence of a two year old on the statements from Cindy. Cindy was always claiming how advanced Caylee was, beyond her years.

  24. mikka says:

    lynda bozo and lyons was shocked,speechless,slapped in the face! :lol:

  25. Muesli says:

    MeMa, did you use a swear word. Naughty, naughty. :lol:

  26. Muesli says:

    mikka, if her hands were restrained or she was drugged, she couldn’t resist.

  27. mikka says:

    muesli,hope stricky do something,whne the anthonys run outside in the middle of the speak!its a dishonor of the court!!

  28. lynda says:

    Mikka, I say let the show begin. Looks like the prosecution has all they need tied up in a bow. Their case is solid. I’m off to work now. Have a great blogging day everyone. God Bless and Justice for Caylee :angel:

  29. Muesli says:

    Hi Lynda, just saw you.

  30. MeMa 52 says:

    mikka…I dont know…I have a almost 3 yr old granddaughter who is strong as h*ll…but I think Caylee was already knocked out when the duct tape was placed over her mouth…or her hand were duct taped at the wrists…

  31. mikka says:

    muesli,for her hands restarined,she dont find enough duct tape,i think she give her druggs !

  32. Muesli says:

    MeMa, we think alike.

  33. MeMa 52 says:

    hi and bye linda…have a good day…sorry I didnt see you

  34. mikka says:

    lynda bye see ya! :wink:

  35. MeMa 52 says:

    no swear words muesli…yesterday after the trial that little wheel kept spinning and I couldnt get it to connect…
    great minds think alike mues :lol:

  36. Good morning!
    Can I get special treatment!?!? hahahhaha

  37. Muesli says:

    mikka, I think anyone can leave the courtroom at their own free will at anytime. I am sure this will be only one of many times the A’s will have to leave. There is going to be so many horrid things said at trial, that no one so close to this case (grandparents, etc.) is going to be able to emotionally handle it. Look at us, we can hardly stand to hear it and vision what took place. I do feel for them in this regard. There is no amount of money that could take that type of pain away.

  38. MeMa 52 says:

    mikka…comcast is letting me down…I got a new connection so I could keep up with you…Im still chasing after you in your dust :lol:

  39. mikka says:

    muesli,when she make this at trial,stricky will tell them,leave or stay!

  40. Muesli says:

    Everyone, paint me compassionate this morning. Don’t think we have a cute face for that, or do we?

  41. mikka says:

    humble :w00t:

  42. mikka says:

    mema :lol: :lol:

  43. MeMa 52 says:

    morning…only special treatment for special people..so I would answer YES

  44. Hi ya Muesli, Mema, Mikka, Lynda, anyone I missed!

    I think they can too Muesli, as long as they don’t disrupt the courtroom.

  45. Muesli says:

    mikka, Verizon fiber optics is the only way to go. We gave up on Comcast a couple of years ago.

  46. MeMa 52 says:

    forget to put in morning HUmble

  47. Oh Mema your wonderful! Let see, I will have to think what I need, no video jail visit…..hahahaha

  48. mikka says:

    and all teh time,when the anthonys run away,she leave conwheel behind,thats not o.k!she know he dont cant walk!

  49. MeMa 52 says:

    humble :lol:

  50. mikka says:

    muesli,no i dont like verizon,stay by comcast! :smile:

  51. Muesli says:

    Did Judge Strickland make any decisions yesterday afternoon. Sometimes he does, and does not put it off for the next week. Anyone know?

  52. MeMa 52 says:

    mikka…conwheels need to ask santa for a motorized chair :lol:

  53. eyespy says:

    Meow!!

    Morning everyone!

    My opinion is if that wasnt enough for the Anthonys and Casey yesterday, wait untill they have the autopsy photo’s to acompany the arguements.That would surely send me over the edge if i was a juror….

  54. Mikka, they just aren’t as considerate as other people. This is about them, and only them! They don’t care.

  55. mikka says:

    mema, :lol: he was looking sad,because he dont cant keep up with them!

  56. mikka says:

    humble so true!

    brb

  57. Muesli says:

    mikka, I know this is not nice, but your comment about Conway really made me laugh out loud. They practically had to climb over his wheelchair to get out of the courtroom. They didn’t give Brad a chance to put it into reverse. Hope there is never a fire in their, with him blocking the aisle.

  58. Muesli, only the depo for DCasey.

    GM Eye!

  59. Muesli says:

    stupid me. there, not their.

  60. Muesli says:

    humble, I’m still not sure what happened about the D. Casey subpoena. I don’t get the differences in the type of subpoenas and what that entails.

  61. MeMa 52 says:

    morning eyes…loved it too when Bozo was told he will not attend the depo of DCasey…

  62. Mues, the defense and Conway can not sit in on the investigative subpoena served to him for questioning. Really it is a conflict because he worked for both of them. I do not think it will be released to the public, either.

  63. MeMa 52 says:

    bet Bozo ran to his local drugstore and emptied the shelves of Pepto after hearing that :lol:

  64. Muesli says:

    Just a nasty thought. Remember at the last hearing, George & Cindy left the courtroom and headed directly to the port for their cruise? Did they have to run out to catch the next cruise? Also, did anyone notice if George had an earring? I tend to believe that it was a sea sickness patch (only stupid George wore it outside, and not behind the ear). I can’t believe that a 57 year old adult would do such a stupid thing like having his ear pierced.

  65. mikka says:

    muesli :lol: :lol:

  66. eyespy says:

    Morning Mema

    As i understand it, they cant take D.Caseys depo unless Bozo puts him on the witness list, which he is not.So what they have to do in an “investigation interview” which does not in clude the defense being present, not allowed.

  67. We talked about this last night, how old Cindy is starting to look.

  68. mikka says:

    muesli,geo was in a good mood,his medication work!

  69. MeMa 52 says:

    eyes…that’s how I understood that too

  70. mikka says:

    humble ,yes cindy looks old,but her braekdown by the elevator,krack me up!

  71. mikka says:

    eye prosecution want to know after 1 october what dcasey did,and he dont was working for bozo!after the hearing bozo say,he will be there when dcasey have his depo,he dont get it,does stricky say no!

  72. Oh Mikka was that a breakdown? I thought that was a need for attention from the camera!?!?

  73. MeMa 52 says:

    mikka…george did look like he was in a zombie state…Sindy is weary and has aged alot…even the new “do” made her look more worn out…a lot different than a few weeks ago when she came off her cruise ship and had to be snide to the press..

  74. Muesli says:

    humble, if we remember the young woman strutting out in handcuffs, wearing a stolen “hoodie” top, with her head held high and a pleasant look on her face, and compare that vision with the way she looked yesterday, yes, she had aged dramatically.

  75. Yep, and I am sure that the d-team is MAD they can’t sit in on it!

  76. eyespy says:

    Over at Hinky’s she did an experiment on the extra piece of duct tape found near Caylee’s body.She came up with the fact that it came from the same strip as what was on Caylee’s mouth (the three peices)So it would seem the state prolly knows this piece was used to “restrain” her in some manner.

  77. Muesli says:

    On the other hand, Cindy looks better each time. Guess she is now able to afford a high-end salon. That’s catty, I know. Meow.

  78. Yep, she has aged big time too Muesli! And brought all on by herself. I guess thinking you can get away with murder by lying, isn’t such a good skin care treatment!

  79. MeMa 52 says:

    if crazey’s circles under her eyes get any darker she’s gonna look like Petey (dog on spanky and our gang) by the trial

  80. eyespy says:

    Mue
    Yeah, Casey has turned in her Arrogant self assured look for a tired old “Morticia” update.

  81. mikka says:

    muesli :lol:

  82. Muesli says:

    It looks like Cindy has lost a lot more weight. I’d rather be a bit (lot :lol: ) overweight, than lose weight the way she has.

  83. MeMa 52 says:

    more like cousin it eyes the way she hides behind that hair :lol:

  84. mikka says:

    muesli i believe cindy knows cma did it,she can say 1000 times cma is innoncent,i dont believe her!

  85. Muesli says:

    Also, what is with the “Goth” looking hairdo on Casey. It makes her look more evil. Boy, if I was in charge of her appearance, she would look like a Princess from Disney, who couldn’t kill a fly. Why does her hair look so greasy. Does she do that on purpose. She is beginning to look more and more like our preconceived notion of an uncaring murderer.

  86. mikka says:

    muesli because she dont wash her hair,and she never order shampoo!!

  87. eyespy says:

    Mema :lol:

  88. Muesli says:

    If you have Joy Wray in your corner, there is no need to buy a fruitcake for Christmas. Don’t like either one.

  89. mikka says:

    muesli,joy write on a blog,now about no chloroform here and there.she must study junk science!! :lol:

  90. Muesli says:

    mikka, does that mean she can read?

  91. mikka says:

    muesli not! :lol:

  92. eyespy says:

    Mue :lol: your on a roll today….

  93. mikka says:

    i must laugh so hard,after the hearing,joy stand outside and katie start running,joy stopped and was thinking katie will interview her! :lol:

  94. mikka says:

    eye :lol:

  95. mikka says:

    i go back and watch katie again brb

  96. eyespy says:

    I like that link Humble left yesterday with Kathi and Lyons, although i couldnt see Lyons elbow Kathi i think she just looked shocked and beaten…..serves her right for being so long winded.

  97. Funny, yesterday I wonder what was going through their heads when Ashton was talking? Were they thinking “junk Science”? As for Joy, she just needs to sit still, be quiet, and her opinions are off the wall!

  98. Eye, you couldn’t see her elbow her, but you can see Kathi nudged. Lyons knows they lost big yesterday! jmo

  99. MeMa 52 says:

    eyes..did you hear kathi when she looked at Lyons and said they have that on tape…Lyons looked shocked that they caught it on tape

  100. The only station who falls for Joys junk is WESH. Maybe we should boycott them!

  101. Justme66 says:

    Good morning all.. Hubby is up and grouchy, so I don’t know how long I’ll be here.. Was just wondering if anyone has the link real quick to the “breakdown at the elevator”.. I’m doing a little investigating this morning.. Thought I had bookmarked it, but can’t find it.. Can’t remember which news station had it.. I’m pathetic, I know.. :whistle:

  102. GM Justme! WFTV, I believe had it. Under after the hearing!

  103. MeMa 52 says:

    I also love how Kathi rattles Bozo….your once again in fairy land…he hates that woman
    mother clucker has a wonder woman video of Belich…it is great

  104. I must say Kathi works hard and doesn’t care who she makes mad! Baez will talk to anyone just to get his fat head on the tube.

  105. Justme66 says:

    Got it humble.. I think.. Thank you!

  106. I wonder who will do the next media circuit? Funny C&G didn’t call CBS needing to explain the drama at the elevator! Cindy LOVES attention!

  107. eyespy says:

    Mema
    Yeah Kathi is Bozos worst nightmare, i do so love her tenaciousness.

    Morning Just, wait till you see the huddle at the elevator, its a riot!

  108. MeMa 52 says:

    morning just…
    G&C are looking for sympathy now and Id like to tell them where to find it…its in the dictionary between sh*t and syphilis

  109. eyespy says:

    Mema
    Bwaaahhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa!!

  110. Justme66 says:

    I saw it yesterday eyes.. I love how Joy keeps peeking up to make sure the camera is catching her, then goes back to huggy huggy again.. She does it twice.. But what I was interested in, was who the other lady in black was.. And now I know.. Thanks to being a big nosey gutter rat.. Hehehehe..

  111. eyespy says:

    I like the way they covered her from the cameras…dont they know if they were true friends they would shove her towards it lol.And Geo just floundering out there on his own hee hee

  112. Justme66 says:

    Mema.. I thought only hubby said that, seeing as I’d never heard that before from anyone else.. He says that alot.. :lol:

  113. MeMa 52 says:

    one of my dad’s favorite saying just…

  114. Justme66 says:

    Well well.. Just wait until I tell hubby it’s NOT an original saying.. Someone else had it before him.. :lol:

  115. Justme66 says:

    I got it Mikka.. But thanks anyway.. :smile:

  116. Muesli says:

    I’m laughing. I knew I only had to write Joy Wray’s name, and it would get you people going. :lol: I’m a brat.

  117. mikka says:

    justmee :wink:

  118. eyespy says:

    Ha Ha Ha that elevator is the equivlant of a clown car!!With Conwheels looking like one of the shriners bringin up the rear.No offence intended…

  119. MeMa 52 says:

    muesli :lol:

  120. Muesli says:

    I’m still not dressed, spend too much time here. Have to go and make some hors d’oeuvres for a friend’s party tonight. I’ll not be far from my laptop so I’ll join you all from time to time.

  121. MeMa 52 says:

    eyes…I thought the elevator was gonna shut on that guys back…sardines in a can

  122. eyespy says:

    Ok Just…who is the lady in black, do tell.From your travels far and wide, you must bring us your most prized info lol

  123. Here is a great picture of BillS in the background…wonder what he is thinking:

    http://www.wesh.com/2009/1211/21931590.jpg

  124. mikka says:

    where is steph???

  125. eyespy says:

    Humble
    Im sure Bill’s brain was on fire!I caught him from time to time and could just invision his mind working and absorbing all the info…

    My its starting to pour here…

  126. Eye, BillS it too funny. He sits with his arms crossed, I wish I would have seen him shack his head! LOL

  127. eyespy says:

    Mikka i thought she mentioned her daughter was visiting? Not sure but she was on a bit yesterday…

  128. I just read Valhall duct tape! I assume Valhall was a websluether? I am curious how you could do that and get an accurate result, as the pictures are not to spec.

    SEE Valhall’s explanation
    http://humbleopinionforum.net/2009/12/12/more-from-the-trial-videos-and-treatment/#comment-25566

  129. mikka says:

    eye o.k thanks!

  130. Justme66 says:

    The lady in black, from using the process of elimination and deductive reasoning is Tengard aka Jilligan from “he whose name shall not be spoken’s site” Delete if you want to Humble..

    Bill S not only shook his head, but he did some grinning as well.. He looked like a proud peacock.. Like he knew he was right about something.. I just can’t remember right now what it was.. :lol:

  131. MeMa 52 says:

    I read that too humble…tape is a bit crumpled in some of the pics…my same thoughts

  132. eyespy says:

    Humble i dont know, but ECD has said all along she believed that Caylee was restrained at some point.ECD mentioned it wasnt a popular theory, and yesterday, Ashton sort of implied that.

  133. Justme, what are you talking about the lady in black?. Where is this so called woman?

  134. mikka says:

    cleaning duty,be back later :wink:

  135. eyespy says:

    Humble
    The elevator huddle…there is a lady in black that we didnt know.

  136. Eye, if you look at the latest pictures that came out of Caylee, she is a big girl. I am believing that something was up with restraining her. Casey couldn’t have done it all without it. I believe that Caylee had been restrained before, like the day at the nanny’s before all this went down..ie Nanny’s is the trunk!

  137. Christine says:

    Seems to me that Baez made one more motion yesterday without filing any papers either. He affectionately put his hand on Casey’s back and whispered into ther ear…..and
    right on CUE she opened the flood gates and voila…those tears began to flow like tap water. Oh, IMO they were NOT for Caylee because she has never shed one salty tear for her, those tears were for her and what’s coming down the pike with her name on it. REALITY HIT HOME yesterday for Casey, George & Cindy Anthony.

    If they all thought yesterday was TOUGH to sit through (and
    George walked out while Ashton was doing his graphic description) then when the autopsy photos are shown they will have to be carried out on a stretcher.
    Asst. State Atty. did a magnificent argument as to why the DP should be on the table. Lyons didn’t like it…nor did Jose but PEOPLE…..that’s what arguements are all about.
    As for the private visits between family and lawyers…..no ruling yet for that either……BUT WHAT IS THERE TO HIDE?
    If Casey is innocent, as Baez & Lyons are claiming, then there is no problem with videoing.
    Baez was the sole person who stopped the Anthony’s from visiting Casey….and Casey may have been the one who didn’t want to see them because she had stated that Cindy & Lee interrogate her when they visit her. George didn’t so she could wrap him around one of those “think of us as a business, using your hand” fingers.

    Lets get real here…..Baez/Lyons are in a corner…almost like being duct taped in. I hope they realize how Caylee felt when she was taped also…..and somehow that hypodremic that was found in the black bag will play a big part in this too.
    Justice for Caylee is coming closer.

  138. Oh that BIG huge woman? And what was JW’s role in all of this? To get on tv with Cindy and George?

  139. Justme66 says:

    There were two ladies in black, in the video yesterday of G&C leaving the courthouse.. One was Joy Wray.. The other, from reading at the other place, I’m assuming was Tengard.. On this link, at 41 seconds.. She’s the lady to the right of the lady in the torquoise (sp) shirt.
    http://www.wftv.com/video/21932889/index.html

  140. eyespy says:

    Humble it makes sense now…and your right, why does Caylee look so big in those pic’s?I thought she was more on the petite side….

  141. Hi Christine! When I was watching that it looked like she was told to cry…something like, oh now! lol

  142. OK, justme is she in the black or the turquoise? I thought the one in the turquoise was her buddy whose kid she watches!

  143. eyespy says:

    Morning Christine
    Very well said, i totally agree.Especially when the photos come into the courtroom, thats gonna be a hell of a day….

  144. Christine, I agree! C&G don’t visit because Baez said not too! And I can’t believe that Conway doesn’t just tell them to go. How hard is it just to talk to her. And yes, Baez claims 100% innocent!

  145. I must say, if that is teng, she is a mean person. She left some nasty posts on the old blog that went to moderation. She is just as nasty as the MM was. Not to mention not any different than Cindy, either.

  146. eyespy says:

    Ooooh im glad im not familar with this person.Thank God for Humbles “magic eraser”

  147. When Mikka is Stricky, she will send them all to prison for life! :wink:

  148. eyespy says:

    Humble :lol:

    DP to the nutsheads!!

  149. Eye, she is nasty and mean. she is a buddy of the notorious mean butt, MM! She just felt the urge to post on the site. Even under different usernames. She fooled no one but herself!

  150. Eye, yea they all need the DP! lol

  151. eyespy says:

    Sounds like our other RENEgade…..

  152. MeMa 52 says:

    gotta get out of this chair and get things done…
    thanks for the chit chat
    see you all a little later

  153. New post:

    http://humbleopinionforum.net/2009/12/12/chit-chat-12dec09/

    I am tired of talking about the nuts, we need to chat it up! lol

  154. eyespy says:

    Toodeloo Mema…im next, saturday morning chores to do.

    Just, are you here?

  155. Valhall says:

    Hi humble,

    Thanks for the great write up and common sense points you make about CA/GA not visiting KC. I think it boils down to that Cindy knows damned well she can’t go there without saying “Tell me what happened to Caylee?”.

    About the work on the duct tape. It actually should be very accurate because I took great pains to make sure everything was normalized via pixels. So, it matters not what the “spec” is for the tape, as long as every single picture I analyzed is to the same scale. And they all are.

    I scaled all pictures back to Q62 (just because it was the first piece of tape I was working with). I did this by measuring the pixels for the width of the tape. I then scaled every other picture to where I achieved the same pixel width for the tape. I also had to rotate pictures to get the tape as close to horizontal as I could.

    While I cannot adjust the error that will be introduced due to creases and curves in 3D (i.e. if the tape curves in or out of the page), I could take out most “gross” errors by my methodology. For instance, you’ll note on Q64 I actually had to cut the picture in half and adjust each end of the tape. This is because of the severe curvature near the middle of the piece of tape. I believe that curvature is Caylee’s face.

    Anyways, just wanted to share that so that the method I used can be understood.

    See ya!

  156. Justme66 says:

    Humble.. You have mail.. :smile:

    Yea.. I saw her over at MM’s, back when MM had a place.. She’s a certified Lova, if you know what I mean.. I think, the A’s brought all of this on themselves.. as I’ve always said, they don’t have to turn their back on Casey.. Be there to support her.. BUT, for the LOVE OF GOD, don’t lie and cover up for her.. That’s what makes me so angry.. They have forgotten little Caylee, and all for what?? A useless piece of lying trash murderer..

  157. Valhall says:

    P.S. Oh, and when I had to fit the pics on my page, they will now not show up as the same scale, but during my analysis, they all were. I had to adjust certain ones to fit into my blog area, while others didn’t need adjustment.

    Thought I’d throw that in, because I’m sure it won’t take but a sec for some one to notice that! If anyone wants to look at the unadjusted pics I used in my analysis, they can simply go straight to the picture like

    http://www.thehinkymeter.com/images/CMA/q62measure1.jpg

    etc. I understand it is important to verify methods, so I’m just providing what I can to allow anyone who would like to the ability to check my work.

    God knows I need all the checking I can get!

  158. Justme66 says:

    Hi valhall.. I read at your site often.. Good work.. :smile:

  159. MeMa 52 says:

    valhall…thanks for taking the time to explain your methods…I read alot on your site and appreciate the hard work you go thru to explain things…thanks again

  160. eyespy says:

    Valhall
    Ditto, nice job.

  161. Hi ya Valhall! I read your site all the time. It is great and as I am not that number savvy and always confused!!

    I didn’t mean anything by the comment about “spec” but was curious. And see after you explain it, I am still a dork! But I do think I am kind of understanding it. With making all the pictures the same size you are able to take the measurements of it! But you see why I leave the measuring up to your site!

  162. Valhall says:

    LOL! humble, I did not think you meant anything by at all. Everything us “bloggers” do needs to be questioned, or we’ll get all up in the “I can’t be wrong” category and be nothing but a big ocean of dork-fish together!

    It is absolutely the right thing to do to question…and in this case EVERYTHING! (lmao)

    I have the scaled pictures such that if you click on the picture, you go to the original picture size used in the analysis. That way anyone who needs to for their own comfort can see that they are to scale.

    One last thing is that the two pieces of tape that I think the 3D error could be introduced is Q64 (but near the middle, because as I said I think it is a virtual “mold” of Caylee’s face – but I do not believe the 3D error is introduced at the ends) and Q66 from the gas can. There are other pictures where they are holding the Q66 piece with tweezers and you can see it has a set curvature because it was curved over the vent hole.

    In practicing full disclosure, I think that should be noted by the reader.

  163. Valhall, I have been wrong many, many times and the posters here keep me in check and out of trouble! lol

    Thank you for scaling the pictures for me! I guess I should have known, thought that uploading to wordpress isn’t as accurate as it should be! When I looked at the pics, I guess I was looking to see how they were scaled! :blush:

    I do find it very impressive that you added the measuring device on them. That was great and I wish I had your talent!

  164. ceci says:

    Finally got a chance to watch the Kathi Belich video… that was grand :) :) She just keeps asking the tough ones. Good for her!

    Great Write-up Humble. One thought is that none of the recordings of attorneys’ and casey meetings were ever released…. prosecution/news media should have restated that and that only public info/Florida law info was…jail recordings of visits etc.

  165. carlavan says:

    Sorry Mikka, left a post then had to go for awhile. Good to “see” you and some of the others again. Hopefully all of us will get back on board. There will be so much activity in the weeks and months ahead. I will be real happy to find out how the DCasey interview goes (but that may take quite awhile).

  166. Jojo21 says:

    I agree with you all……….Casey was pizzzzzzed….cuz she did not have the control…..that Sindy always gave her……………..now she has to face reality……………….(which Sindy never did)…no wonder she ran out of the court room…………………………..what she failed to do in life………………….is coming back to her.

  167. Christine says:

    So Casey had a bad day i court, eh? Poor thang…..

    Just think about how many BAD DAYS CAYLEE HAD IN HER SHORT LIFE.

  168. Christine says:

    If G & C didn’t know that the DP was goind to be argued…then they had better FIRE CONWAY……for not explaining what would take place once the arguments got underway.

    IMO Not only was Casey coached (Baez whispering in her ear) to begin the waterworks…..but G & C was coached also promoting MORE SYMPATHY for them. Please someone tell me where from the moment Cindy’s FIRST MEDIA interview after the 31 days missing call took place…..WHERE WERE HER TEARS FOR HER GRANDAUGHTER? Remember Caylee was supposed to be kidnapped……BUT THEY NEVER PLEADED TO THE KIDNAPPERS FOR HER RETURN??????

    G & C what you experienced in Friday’s courtroom is only a smithering of what you will be hearing and seeing once the autopsy photos are shown to the jurors.

    You had better get used to it….because this is REALITY !!!!

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