After reading the ridiculous letters that Cindy and George have sent to the precious MURDERER, so state that she is in “control”! I am very surprised of these comments by these nuts. What is she in control of? Who does she have the control of?
Seems to me, this is why Caylee isn’t around today. Cindy let Casey do as she pleased. Steal as she pleased, run her mouth as she pleased. AND the biggest thing, lie all the time. Honestly, Casey has NO control and isn’t in charge. If she was, she sure as heck wouldn’t be in jail waiting for a murder trial to happen. She would be out running the streets, living the good life, all without Caylee.
I believe they say this crap to Casey so they feel they have her love and affection, something I sure wouldn’t be wanting from this murderer. Cindy is so afraid that if she doesn’t let her feel in charge and control, she will lose her only daughter, the one she raised into a murderer. George, well he is just a nut. He is so mixed up that he can’t figure out what is going on with the little “brat” child, but I do believe he knows that Casey killed Caylee. He is just to big of a puss to admit it.
Seems to me the State of Florida is in charge and control of ALL of them. They pay the pathetic Cindy and George disability, and have for almost 2 years. They control the C&G, without the state, they have no money. The state is also in charge and control of Casey. She sits in their jail, with murder charges and she can’t LIE her way out of the jail or the charges.
Then there is Lee, the only smart one who hasn’t written to Casey. I believe Lee knows that Casey in INVOLVED in the murder of Caylee. He has the Mallory writing to Casey so he doesn’t have to. I believe that Casey has tried hard to suck up to Mallory, remember in the letter Mallory TYPED up and sent to Casey? Lee gave me the letter you wrote him. Thanks for the KIND words about me….. Yea, another letter she wrote to suck up to the girlfriend of her only brother, but why?
What a joke. Casey in control ya right. I suppose G is used to being controlled though..
Casey wrote a letter to Lee? When? I thought she wasn’t even writing to anyone. Speaking of writing letters. I am waiting for a reply from Leonard Padilla to the email I sent him yesterday regarding his turncoat, Tracy McLaughlin. If he replies, I’ll c&P it here.
smoke&mirrors says:
29 June 2010 at 05:31
Good morning all,
Museli, Just in case you did not see this while on your blog stroll, here is an update on the Ant. foreclosure case:
CASE NO. 2010-CA-004872-O
BANK OF AMERICA NA vs. ANTHONY, CYNTHIA Met al.
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
06/25/2010 Notice Cancellation of Hearing
6/23/2010 @ 9:45 am
06/28/2010 Certificate of Service
Certificate of Service OF COURT ORDER
Wish I knew what this meant….
Here is what I found:
(B) Certificate of Service. The applicant or applicant’s attorney shall certify to the court compliance with the service requirements of Rule 736. The applicant shall file a copy of the notice and the certificate of service with the clerk of the court. The certificate of service shall be prima facie evidence of the fact of service.
Rule 736: http://www.stcl.edu/library/TexasRulesProject/TRCP735-755/rule736Apr2000.htm
Hi ya Beast, Welcome! Yea a joke is exactly what it is!
Muesli, Muesli, it must have been right after she was thrown in the slammer for murder. Mallory wrote in a letter that Lee gave her the letter she wrote to Lee at Christmas! I assume it was a kiss butt letter!
Of all the people LP could have sent to stay with Casey……..why on earth would it have to be a goofy, immature giggle puss who it turns out is starstruck with a murderer? It was painful to hear this idiot try to answer questions while laughing before every answer.
Hi Diana…
Tracy “DAWN” is just a dork! LP, of course, isn’t any better!
dont forget to click on the “live show” link on my website for requests and chat. let me know where you are from.
Smoke, I went ahead and read rule 736 (yawn). As I recall, somewhere it was reported that Cindy stated they had never received notice of foreclosure by BOA. Could this be why they are contesting the foreclosure under rule 736, 2. Notice, (A). In other words, the way I see it, they are contesting the right to foreclosure.
Actually, I don’t fully understand these legal documents, but I try.
Muesli, I bet that notice is taped to the front door of the A’s house, and they just happen to throw it away!
Actually, I would hope that the BofA would have sent them a certified letter. Maybe it came with the credit card bill and Casey hid it!
Humble, remember, they didn’t find the letter from the tow company which was at their front door. But, come on, they most certainly knew they hadn’t paid their mortgage for 9 months at that time. Why are they always trying to implicate that the general public is as stupid as they are?
they are special thats why. Why should they have to pay their bills like everyone else?
Humble~ i cannot connect to the doc links? i get a 404 not found ? i can connect to the letters, etc…. jus not the 1-100,etc….do u know y?
And lets not forget Casey is a convicted Felon now. The pride and joy of any parent.
Evrli, good to see you! Looks like they have removed the files….Let me see if I can find them…
Beast she is a convicted felon, and that will help with getting her the death penalty!
humble! good morning! im always lurking around~ jus behavin myself!!! LOL! thank you for the files. y did they remove them?
I have no clue Evrli! But you can read them at WFTV:
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24039447/detail.html
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24039452/detail.htm
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24039449/detail.html
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24039428/detail.html
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24039453/detail.html
i interpret it as…casey has all the answers, therefore shes in control…?
thank you humble, maybe docstoc?…..
Also on click Orlando:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24036049/detail.html
I have no clue about docstoc. I haven’t had time to send them to my friend who posts almost all the docs.
id rather b on your site than wftv……….;) BUT i gotta go where the docs are……congrats on your move humble, i moved 6 weeks ago and STILL havent gotten the curtains up! ok enough off topic….have a blessed day ppl….:)
Here it is on WESH….
http://www.wesh.com/news/24040189/detail.html
They are separated…thanks Evrli…I am exhausted from moving…painting, etc….
bbl……………..have to get some things done around here!
Guess these idiots who wrote to Casey didn’t realize that their letters would be published. Toooooooooo bad you idiots. They must have complained to the media. Can you say “Sunshine Laws” everybody? LMFAO They deserve it. Next time they will think before putting that information out to strangers.
muesli…i totally agree…
Humble~ maybe…they have a lien on the house so it cant be foreclosed on until that lien is addressed/resolved with the lienholder,which may not be the bank, there may be 2 seperate mortgages from 2 seperate companies. BofA wants to forclose the house, but someone else has a lien on it , which would mean they would come first? could be a private party who loaned them some money, like cindys parents…..jus theorizing….
Evrli, it is my understand that BOA has first dibs on the house, as they hold the original mortgage. Don’t know, just from what I am hearing from my brother who has just purchased a house on a short sale. Luckily, we’ve never been there.
oops. understandING
“Yea, another letter she wrote to suck up to the girlfriend of her only brother, but why?”
-probably because she can’t contol Lee like the folks and this is her attempt to manipulate him through Mallory?
I wish George would reach back to his past and once gain control of the ethics he was trained to uphold. By sending her the final letter thrashing her for attempting to throw him and Lee under the criminal bus, was a good start, and this is what will start the healing process for him. One can only question why her mother didn’t do the same, and why isn’t she focusing on the rest of her family’s welfare at this point? I think it just all boils down to Cindy needs to be ‘right’ at anyone’s expence!”
Hi Liz, welcome! That is exactly why she wrote that letter to Lee and made a few complimentary remarks to Mallory. I also believe that Casey knew that Lee has info that will put her away. ALL here want to be leads for him, were nothing. She needed to try and keep him and Mallory under her wings.
I am not sure, read so many letters, but I don’t think I read in the letters to Casey that Mallory OR Lee believe her to be innocent!!!
copied from statement analysis
Analysis:
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught – July 4, 2008
Notice first that Cindy is “distraught”. I believe it to be true, but first: “my” Caylee is noted. Not Casey’s Caylee, but Cindy’s. Who is the mother?
“She came into my life unexpectedly, just as she has left me.
Here is an example of how we trust the statement. This is a truthful and accurate statement. Interesting comparison. When Casey was pregnant, it was obvious to all, but Cindy remained in denial, in spite of Casey being 6 months pregnant, and showing at her uncle’s wedding. She came into Cindy’s life and Cindy denied it. When Caylee departed, Cindy denied it. Fascinating. Cindy knew Caylee was missing, but when George brought home the car, she smelled her granddaughter’s dead body. Cindy denied it. She said that someone else put a different dead body in the car, or that it was pizza. She knew. You do not have to have any training in the world to recognize human decomposition. Once you smell it, you know, instinctively. You won’t forget what you have smelled (it initiates the gag reflex) and you won’t mix it up with a dead animal, nor a skunk, nor rotting food. It is distinct to the human nose and it is horrific. Cindy, as a RN, and George as a former sheriff deputy, both smelled it before, and both knew. It was the 800lb gorilla, sitting on the couch, between George and Cindy. Just as Cindy denied the arrival, she has denied the departure.
Now look at the pronouns highlighted. Before we do anything with a statement, we circle all the pronouns, and then circle the area where a pronoun is missing and should have been. Pronouns show ownership and direction in a statement.
Cindy: Caylee came into HER (Cindy) life. Caylee left CINDY. This is the emphasis. Casey accused Cindy of stealing away Caylee and even having Caylee call Cindy “mommy”. THIS IS AN INDICATION THAT CASEY WAS TRUTHFUL when she reported that Cindy was attempting to be Caylee’s mother, and that a jealousy dynamic existed. Although Cindy has denied this contention, her own words weaken the denial.
“This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love.”
This is language (“angel”) employed when a child is deceased. Children are playful, messy, and at this age, need constant supervision. They know very little and must be taught how to use the bathroom, how to eat, how to pick up after themselves. In fact, if, at this age, they are neglected, it will impact them for the rest of their lives. At 2 1/2, the child must learn the very basics of life. It is often when a child dies that the child is now upgraded from learner to “teacher”, who, in Cindy’s mind, now has the ability to not only be “from above” but to impart “strength” to Cindy and provide her with “unconditional” love. “Unconditional” love is one without conditions; and this is sometimes found in the language of those who have failed in their parental capacities, as they have regret. They state the love to be without “conditions”,meaning that they may have been forgiven (in their own minds) for transgressions because the child continues to love in spite of what they have done to the child.
By stating that she is from “above”, it is a strong indicator that on July 4, 2008, Cindy is acknowledging, at least in writing, that Caylee is dead.
Now she is gone and I don’t know why.
I also believe this to be true. Cindy does not know why Casey did this. Remember, if Casey has not told her, she may not know why, but it doesn’t mean that she doesn’t have ideas as to why. “Was it to pay me back? Jealousy? Revenge? Wanting freedom? What have I done?” Whatever the reason, Cindy may well believe it is personal, against Cindy. She has portrayed herself as a wonderful grandmother and Casey as a wonderful mother, someone who is good with money, someone who advises her friends, is responsible, and so on. We must listen carefully to the words Cindy uses. This is where Statement Analysis can pick up deception and meaning.
“All I am guilty of ”
This is in the form of negation. This is information not sought but offered, and tells us that Cindy is guilty. Within her words is:
“I am guilty”
This is something also seen in confessions. “You think that I did it??” Innocent people generally do not frame the words “I did it” within their denial.
“Art thou the King of the Jews?”
Christ answered, “thou sayest it”.
In other words, their words frame the very thing they attempt to deny. LISTEN to what Cindy says.
is loving her and providing her a safe home.
Not a loving home, nor providing her a “home” but a “safe” home. Extra words give us extra information. Cindy chooses the word “safe” which means that she has been thinking of danger. What danger? Danger from Casey? Remember, jealousy or envy, is powerful and was behind the first murder of Abel at the hands of Cain, his brother.
Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her.
This confirms that Casey was being truthful when she accused her mother of stealing away Caylee; for even if it is in her own perception, it is what has been discussed and Cindy tells us Casey’s motive. Prior, she asks “why” but here, she seems to give herself, the answer. Even while publicly being in denial, she still knew. This would weaken the belief of experts who early on reported that she was in denial, truly, in the sense of psychology. As long as Caylee was thought to be “alive”, it may raise doubt in the mind of just one juror. Cindy knew that.
A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most.
Cindy is angry. Look for “but”, “however”, (etc) and learn that what follows is most important. For Cindy, the mother’s love is limited; unlike the “unconditional” love she got from Caylee. This is a stark view into Cindy’s thinking. She can get “unconditional” love from Caylee but she herself cannot love her own daughter, Casey, unconditionally. Why? why the difference?
Answer: Because Caylee is “above”, or in heaven, and can love unconditionally, but Cindy, here on earth, has a limit to the love she can give Casey. This is an indication that when this was posted, she knew Caylee was deceased.
A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began.
Cindy cannot love “unconditionally”; as she sets limits to her own love and now she is telling us, with changing verb tenses, why the love has conditions upon it. The love Cindy had was able to bear the pregnancy but then the lies began, and the “betrayal” began. This is highly personal for Cindy. We know that Casey stole money, even for Caylee’s birthday party (in an effort to “outdo” Cindy?), which may have been minor, but for Cindy, there is a “betrayal” in all of this, and it is beyond the boundary of her love.
First it seemed harmless,
Whatever it was, it was “harmless”, ie, that which does NOT cause harm. Notice in the word “harmless” is the word “harm”. In order for you to call yourself “normal” you were likely told you were “abnormal” or “not normal”. Cindy introduces the subject of “harm” into the statement.
ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change.
When a mother uses the word “child” it is an indication of concern or knowledge of abuse; especially sexual abuse.
In fact, if you are describing yourself growing up, you might say “when I was a boy” or “when I was a kid”, which is the norm. When someone describes themselves as a “child” it is often an indication that they suffered child abuse, likely sexual abuse. When a mother describes her daughter as “child” it may be an indication that she is worried, or failed to protect against child abuse. (we don’t say “kid abuser” or “kid molester”, but “child abuse” and “child molester” as the norm. This can be an indication of sexual abuse, or fear of it. When a mother of a 3 year old, for instance, frets about the bio father possibly abusing the 3 year old, she will often refer to her as a “child” rather than “girl” or “daughter”. We don’t go on any one indication, but put many pieces of a puzzle together, including allegations, and sexually acting out behaviors. If Cindy fears that Casey may have been abused, she would likely blame herself and this guilt would show itself in trying to save Casey’s life; even it it means lying. Remember, her love for Casey is broken past the conditional barrier Cindy placed upon it.
She is continuing to describe her bounded and conditional love that she has towards Casey. It is not like the love that Caylee has for her; instead, it has a limit, and the limit is betrayal. She tells us that there are lies that are “harmless”, indicating that she knows of a lie that is “harmful”.
This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal.
Remember: “this” is close, but “that” is distant. She confirms that she is speaking about a mother that is “close” to herself. In all of this, the third person shows Cindy, although describing herself and Casey, keeping a bit of distance. This is done when someone is uncomfortable with their own behavior. “Big Ben…I don’t like him much” Ben R said about himself. The subtle distancing is due to acute pain.
What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart.
This is what Casey has done to end the love: broken Cindy’s heart.
Observers with psychology backgrounds have often described Cindy’s drive to get Casey free as an attempt to alleviate her own guilt. It is not so much Cindy’s love for Casey, but rather, a desire to expiate her own guilt. I believe this theme to be an accurate description of some of the reasons Cindy Anthony is willing to go on national television and lie. She feels responsible for the death of “her” daughter, ie, granddaughter, who belonged to her; and not to Casey. This confusion and the jealous issue are strongly attached.
The daughter who stole money, lots of money,
Look back at Cindy’s 911 calls.
This may anger some, but: It is frightening for me to know that even though she smelled the odor of decomposition AND she washed the clothes that had this odor, and attempted to scrub away the evidence of death, in her calls, she mentions MONEY and auto theft before she reports about Caylee. Some may say that this is part of Cindy’s denial, and it may be. I cannot imagine a child in my family going missing and even bothering to report stolen money, credit cards or the family car. This is an insight into the life that Caylee had. (see analysis on Caylee’s last moments). Note also, in Cindy’s mind, money is important. It is not just money, but “lots” of money. Recall: Cindy attempted to franchise Caylee’s name in order to make money and has spoken about book deals, and has also spoken about Nancy Grace and others making money through higher ratings.
Order is important. (see Misty Croslin’s 911 call). Order tells us priority in life, and chronological importance. It is staggering to believe that she may have spoken first about missing car, money, or that she spoke more about missing possessions than she did about Caylee. It is indicative of the care that Caylee received.
Remember: For 2 years, Casey lied about going to work and dropping Cindy’s grandchild off with a nanny. NOT ONCE did Cindy or George EVER even bother to phone the nanny, speak to the nanny, get references about the Nanny, call law enforcement, run the sex offender registry, or do anything to keep Caylee from “harm”. People take more care in dropping a pet off at a kennel. This is indicative of neglect and failure to protect Caylee. We learn of no efforts by them made. If they took this little care to protect her, why would anyone assume that Caylee’s life was anything but neglectful?
leaves without warning
Why would a warning be needed?
and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future.
Here we are given more insight into Caylee’s life, as well as Cindy’s animosity towards Casey; ie, what Cindy is like when the love she has has gone past the boundary that was a condition of it:
“the” baby. While in care of Cindy, she was not “angel” but “the baby” (she is not even Caylee or a term of endearment).
Notice change in language always. Change must be justified by context, or else it may indicate deception. When Caylee is missing, she is “angel” but here, while needed care, she is “the baby”.
Now, notice the importance of order of what CINDY did for Caylee:
“raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc”
1. raised
2. fed
3. clothed
4. sheltered
5. paid medical bills
6. etc
I would like to know: did Casey have coverage for the medical? Did she have a Florida form of medicaid? We have been told that she was not sick often, but very healthy so we might not expect to see many medical bills.
“raised” is the primary care. This is not an “angel” teaching Cindy anything, but a child who needs to be raised and taught.
“clothed” costs money.
“sheltered” speaks to housing, mortgage. (last report, Cindy refused to pay the mortgage for at least 9 months)
“the baby” is said to have been given these things. No mention of love. We learned that Caylee gave “unconditional” love to Cindy, but we do not have Cindy tell us that she gave Caylee “love”; only the expense of care.
Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”
Caylee is no longer “the baby” but is now an angel.
Question: Why the change?
Answer: Because she is not being cared for, in the shelter, where Cindy “raised”, “clothed” and “fed” her as a “baby” would need, but now she is back to being called “angel” because she is in Heaven and who watches over those in Heaven, since it is not Cindy? This is likely rhetorical: “where did she go?” and “who is watching”
Notice also:
it is not “who is watching” Caylee, but “who is watching out for Caylee?”.
To watch is one thing, but to watch “out” for is an indication of being on alert for danger. “Watch out for the storm!” or “watch out for deception” is strong.
The Myspace page of Cindy Anthony gives us insight into the neglect experienced by Caylee Marie Anthony, as well as the explosive jealousy between Casey and Cindy.
It tells us that as of July 4, 2008, Cindy Anthony knew that Caylee was dead, which is why she uses heavenly language.
Humble,
TY for the information regarding the Certificate of Service (rule 736). Here is another entry:
UPDATE
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
CASE NO. 2010-CA-004872-O
BANK OF AMERICA NA vs. ANTHONY, CYNTHIA Met al.
06/28/2010 Certificate of Service
Certificate of Service OF COURT ORDER
06/29/2010 Acceptance of Service
SUPPLEMENTAL Acceptance of Service DOCUMENTS
Lee Marie- idk if I’d call him smart but maybe the closest to normal one in the family, lol! I really don’t buy that Lee Marie and cma were as close as people think. In Lee Marie’s state depo interview regarding cma, he never brought up the obvious that she was pregnant and according to him he knew when she was around 3 months preggers. If your close to your sister you ask her about it. He says he didn’t bring it up because it was obvious and if she wanted me to know she’d tell me. And when cma finally tells Sindy and George that it’s not a tumor, it’s a baby!!!…She never tells her brother. Lee Marie said he just started seeing baby stuff around the house…He didn’t even go to the hospital when Caylee was born. This family is sooooo messed up! Ik, that’s putting it mildly. I just get the sense they were not as close as everyone would imply. Especially in the most recent years. I don’t think cma would tell her brother anything!!! Because the last time cma told Lee Marie something private he told Sindy!!! (when she thought see was pregnant again and was bleeding) Lee Marie knows CMA killed Caylee. I wish he would get the balls to say it! Also either admit or deny her accusations.
Hello Everyone! Humble, buy or rent the Wagner paint thing, really!
Maze, I was just going to post the link to the same statement analysis! Ah, great minds. That analysis really hits the real story right on Cindy’s empty head. Stick a fork in her, she is way done!
Good afternoon all… I won’t be here long, my son has a baseball game in a few hours, and I still have alot to do before then… I was just thinking about this case, as I often do, and something hit me… Do you think Casey will use the defense that she killed Caylee to “protect” her from George’s sexual innuendos??? Do you think that she told Cindy, Cindy didn’t believe her, thus the big fight, and that she could have killed Caylee to protect her???? Probably not, but in a case like this, EVERYTHING enters ones mind… That just happened to hit mine today, and thought I’d toss it out there to see what you all thought about it…
JustMe, ITA with that theory. Yesterday I thought the exact same thing. I think it’s the perfect “Oh now I understand” epiphany we are all supposed to have at the trial.
And I would imagine it would be more than enough (if true) to get WF out of the DP and into LWOP. Or maybe even with parole. Using the approach that Caylee was in line for the same manhandling WF had endured as a child almost makes it a righteous act to terminate her life to “save” her. Perhaps the abuse had already begun.
IDK but as time goes by, I think this is exactly where this case will end up. Especially in view of absence of denial by GMA or LMA. They are just heartbroken, not furious as would be expected. Heartbroken WF indeed spilled the beans.
I’m inclined to believe that’s where the case is headed as well, but if Casey thinks that’s going to get her “Off” I think she’s WRONG… If that were the case, there’s help available, and Georgie could have been locked up… You don’t KILL your child to “protect” them, and IMO makes NOTHING better about any of it… She’s still guilty as sin, and will still be locked up for life, if all goes as it should… JMO
And as far as there being an “Aha, that’s it” moment, for me I don’t think there will EVER be one… It’s no telling what’s going to happen next with this buncha nuts… Nothing suprises me where ANY of them are concerned… They’re all a bunch of WHACK JOBS!!!
Normal people certainly don’t kill their children for ANY reason. Normal being the key word.
Caylee was just an innocent baby, whose life was ended FAR TOO SOON… Any one of us, and alot of others, would have taken that little angel and raised her as our own to “protect” her from any harm that may have come to her in that nutty household… So CASEY, there’s ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE for what you did to her, and you should have to pay DEARLY!!
Right – epiphany schmiphany. Only in Bozo’s wildest dreams. Don’t think for a minute I buy into this BS.
Well, I have to run and get a shower… It’s almost game time… Cya’ll later…
But I am curious, do you guys believe that Casey was abused by George and/or by Lee?
Patsywig -
If it were me, I would be screaming how dare you? What a lie!
However – neither one is denying it at all. Instead of furious, George is heartbroken. Strange.
That is very true. I would be furious as well. WEIRD! It’s hard to believe anything about this case. Didn’t they ask George about the abuse allegations on GMA or the Today show or whatever that was? I can’t remember his response…
Oh gosh, I don’t recall any TV show actually asking GMA the question. Whoa, talk about putting him on the spot!
Maybe someone else remembers this?
And BTW, could he be prosecuted for this action if it were proven true? I suppose there’s a statute of limitations time wise tho.
Back in for just a second, while son gets his shower…
I don’t think there is a statute of limitations on sexual abuse…. I’m not 100% positive though… I have heard of perps being prosecuted YEARS after the fact, but I don’t know if it depends on the age of the victim at the time, etc.. Not sure how that works….
Hi all. Patsy I rmrber the interview. He just said he was hurt. Didn’t deny then either and the grusome twosome didn’t defend tubesocks either. Hhmmmm
Plus, in this case it wouldn’t just be sexual abuse/molestation, it would be INCEST as well, and in some states there are laws against that alone, if I understand correctly…
You’re correct batwoman… It was in the last interview that they did, IIRC it was on Good Morning America… Is that correct?? On the 16 of June??
Oh yeah, the 2 year anniversary show. I’ll have to watch that again now.
Geez, when you think INCEST, it becomes all the sicker. I hate this family.
They have to be the sickest bunch of weirdos I’ve ever seen/heard of, that’s for sure….. Even the wildest imagination couldn’t make this chit up…. CRAZY!!!
Well, time to run…. I’ll leave you all with this…. Sort of a tension breaker… I love this song…. Almost as much as I love watching my son play…. *BIG HUGE PROUD SMILE*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04KQydlJ-qc
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/TheLaw/exclusive-george-cindy-anthony-speak-anniversary-caylees-disappearance/story?id=10911174
Half way through, the abuse allegations come up to which George replies “It’s hurtful”. Hurtful? Strange choice of words.
See how George Marie never denies or defends himself. Plus his teenage lovefest letters to WF. I think something probably did happen somewhere along the line. And then there is tubes who has been so noticibly abscent?
One twisted bunch of freaks. I don’t know why these accusations are neither denied or defended. Whether true or not. George normally has no problem lying about chit.
And Lee boy’s silence and scarcity. Hmmmm.
Hhmmm? Is right Suzie Jane
Justme – my mind has gone in the direction yours did with respect to George and Cindy and Casey and sexual abuse. But the farthest I got was to believe that the lawyers are going to throw George under the bus and Cindy knows that. The reasons I think this are
1. Casey’s statements about the abuse ( and since we only have her word for it it is very unlikely to be true – she is a pathological liar).
2. George’s desire to see his daughter while Cindy, Jose and Andrea talk him out of it
3. George’s broken hearted letter about Casey destroying the family and asking Why?
4. Cindy’s failure to address the accusations in a letter to Casey.
5. The fact that there are no family visits – since the jury is coming from out of town the publicity would be irrelevant.
6. Casey’s willingness to do or say anything to blame someone else or get herself out of trouble.
But look at the family dynamics here. When WF was at the wedding 7 mos preg. The family denied it. Oh she is not sextually active. Her skank self in all pics. No father on birth certificate. Nice clean perfect house. George throwing dad threw glass. The gambling. The lies and stealing WF did. Don’t ya think this is a possibility. They don’t deny it and they don’t defend themselves sagainst the accusations. But make no mistake it is not an excuse for killing your daughter.
WHAT IF??? -
This whole abuse thing is a total fabrication by the Scanthony’s in an effort to build mitigating factors as to why this murder occurred. George is taking the hit (again) to protect WF. By being the bad guy, hopes are to get the needle out of poor lil WF’s arm. Lee is not quite the willing participant in this plan as George is. Of course, George has no choice – Spindy says just go along with it George or I’ll kill you.
In other words, it’s a result of more “brainstorming” at the kitchen table on Hope Spring just like the Blanchard Park scenerio or the misuse of the date June 9th.
Maybe the public will buy this story. They are busy little beavers…..
Hi everyone! On for a minute…shhh, don’t tell the husband!
Justme66 wrote:
29 June 2010 at 12:48 (Edit)
Do you think Casey will use the defense that she killed Caylee to “protect” her from George’s sexual innuendos???
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Well how can she use that? It was a nanny, yet to be found or gosh yet to be sought after, that had the baby and took her from Casey. I think this will be the defense! Or if it isn’t, she will forsure get the needle!
BUT with that said, there are different ways that Casey could have handled it, if IN FACT George did something to Casey over the years. Like go after George. Isn’t it usually the abuser who gets whacked? Casey could have left and got a REAL job, provided for Caylee and used the state to live off of, just like Mommy and Papa Jo are doing right now. She could have also given the baby to the father to provide for Caylee and got her out of there. I BELIEVE that Casey killed Caylee out of jealousy.
Humblers I am off to cook dinner and can hear the storm coming in. Stay safe and I will BBL
I also believe that Casey abused Caylee her whole life. It got worse as Caylee got older. Had Cindy, the nurse impersonator, reported child abuse, LIKE SHE SHOULD have, claiming nursing credentials, Caylee would be alive today.
Cindy is a REAL stupid person.
Needle in the arm. Humble I wish she would get the fireing squad like that guy in Utah last week. Ha Ha. Bbl
Totally agree Humble – only prob is it doesn’t make a very good defense
Hurry back Batwoman. Cling tightly to the rafters till the storm blows over.
Hi Humble
shhhhhh
If the defense is going to stick with the nanny story – and they are sort of stuck with it to some degree at this point – how well does anyone think the state has proven she does not exist. Do you think they covered all their bases?
Bye Batwoman!
Suzie, fabrication is right, but the dork-team claims 100% INNOCENT! So she can’t even plea, because that would show guilt. After all this time and stalling tactics by the d-team, I think anything they come up with is just to get her a lighter sentence, ok well the DP removed. Casey is the only rat in FL to not claim insanity for a murder she committed. Why is this? She thinks she can lie her way out of it.
Hi Carol – ITA with your list. Cindy knows the lawyers are going to try to throw Georgie under the bus and she could care less.
Gets her off the hook with the choking arguement among other things.
Any thing for WF.
Hi Caroly, your right it doesn’t. But the d-team is determined to use anything and anyone to point the blame! Perry Mason wouldn’t even be able to get the Casey off!
Right Humble. The entire defense is thinking penalty phase. They know damn well she’s guilty as charged!
Batwoman, she will get her wrath in prison! They hate baby killers there. Many men and woman are stabled to death in prison for killing babies.
Caroly, Casey will be in prison talking her way out of a fight, with lies…they will get her good!
Last night I read some of the letters George wrote Casey in 09. He used words like “Goodmorning Beautiful” telling her how much he loved her and Hopespring Drive just wasn’t the same w/o his girls, Casey’s in Charge. I read this over and over, nothing but love and adoration… Nothing like, “Hey, what exactly happened to my beloved Granddaughter anyway” just I love you, I wish I could kiss you and hugg you and hear your voice….
THIS JUST MADE ME SO TOTALLY SICK I COULD PUKE!!!!!!!! I think they actually worship the ground this Slime walks on. Okay, if this were to happen to me, my daughter had murdered my beloved granddaughter, I deep down I knew it, would I be talking like this to her murder? HE NEVER CONFRONTS HER ONCE!!~~ tHIS JUST TOTALLY RIPPED MY HEART OUT FOR CAYLEE!!!
It’s obvious that they love Casey way more than Caylee. Their greatest concern is for Casey and how Casey is feeling and if she is mad at them and could they possibly catch a glimps of her just made them swoon. These people are totally wretched!!! They didn’t care about Caylee!!! We care more about Caylee than they did. They’re only worried about Casey and if she’s gainning weight and her commisary account and is it full and is she stuffing her mouth will all the treats she can etc…. There had to be a mechanism in place that allowed this monster child to brutally slay a beautiful, gorgeous child like Caylee. And now we see it. They turned Casey into the Narcissist that she is… and they even said that all the fights were about Caylee….. SHAME ON YOU, YOU FODDER OF HUMAN KIND…. ALL YOU CARED ABOUT WAS CASEY AND EVERYTHING ELSE WAS AN AFTERTHOUGHT, INCLUDING CAYLEE… I WISH YOU COULD BE BROUGHT UP ON CHARGES LIKE YOUR ANIMAL DAUGHTER… AND I do think it is true that George molested Casey, I think he is in love with her and cannot keep his eyes. thoughts off of her. It’s obvious in the letters… Shame Shame on you Anthony’s…
Suzie, they do know and that video that is sealed proves it. The Bozo knows more than he should and should be removed from the case, of course he is looking to make the big time attorney’s, which he never will!
Quater, yea a real bunch of nuts! George made me sick to my stomach!
And, Caylee is nothing but money for them, now. out of sight out of mind. See they remember Casey, her skanky pictures are all over the news! She really isn’t the money machine either!
bbl………………need a few minutes of rest!
Bye Humble – nice chatting with you. I’ll BBL too.
I think that in order to qualify for jury duty you should have to be a humbler or humblette. What do you say folks? It would save the state a lot of money. And I’m sure Judge Perry would love us.
Humble Yeah, the “Big time attorney” he thinks this case is going to rocket him to stardom… Looking into his background, he wasn’t even capable of becoming a lawyer due to person problems, like he didn’t pay his child support, didn’t pay his student loans, leased a car that he didn’t pay for etc. Then he has a little vid on his website where he’s pretending to be the champion of the hispanic people. He’s helping some very poor ppl with some legal issue. Not like the fabulous Anthonys, god’s gift to the middle class. SMUT!!! I’m sure the A’s house is in jeapordy because of funneling $$$ to Casey defense. AND GEORGE & CINDY ANTHONY ON DISABILITY!!! GIVE ME A BREAKKKKK… ON what grounds are they collecting disablilty??? are they sick, unable to work? NO!!!! This is just another opportunity to sponge off people, just the same way their no-good daughter did. The apple doesn’t fall to far from the tree that’s for sure!!!!!!!!!!!
what will CMA’s defense be? i can’t even think of one that supports all her lies.
Chachi… Yeah.. What a slime bucket. I’m pissed after I read those letters george wrote Casey…
Yeah well, it’s me again!!!
She’s not getting into law school w/o a h.s. diploma and FYI why would she need her drivers license? These people must be delusional and smoking crack to boot… They are obsessed with Casey and in love with her too…. IT’s disgusting… They just want to hear her voice, see her but for 1 minute, caylee’s not dead, Casey going to Law School. They are desperate to see her, touch her OMG… I can’t believe what I am reading. Is anyone else thinking the same???
I’ve continued reading more of the C & G letters… grrr.. you know, it’s almost as if the actually worship her. Like they cannot with all the mountain of evidence concieve of her being involved. Cindy still doesn’t think Caylee’s dead!!! Who do they think they dug up on Suburban Drive???
I’ve actually NEVER seen two people that love a child the way that Cindy & George love Casey… Now we know why she got into all that trouble! It’s like they are desperate for her attention and she is witholding it from them. I see they’re still trying to implicate poor Jessie Grund… What scum bags….
I’m sorry I’m posting so much but I truly cannot believe what I am reading. They don’t blame her in the slightest! Cindy is actually going to see if Andrea can get Casey into law school!!!!!!!!! DUH, she’s in jail on a felony murder 1 DP case you dumbo
YES Quarter!!! they are in Fantasy Anthony Island!!! I HATE THE ANTHONY”S!!!!
SINdy doesn’t believe Caylee’s dead…she needs to be institutionalized with the remark!!!
I have to smile each time Cindy goes before the media because she is shoving that needle further into her daughter’s arm with each lie, mistruth, half-truths etc. I would think the only way Casey could get LWOP would be to fess up and ask for forgivness, but I don’t believe she will ever ‘go there.’
I can’t see Cindy telling the truth on the witness stand, and hopefully, she will be charged with obstruction with all her attempted cover-ups and evidence tampering, after this trial is all said and done. (Remember when she stated that she should have provided the PD with the dog’s brush instead of Caylee’s! That just totally sickened me! If she believed Caylee was alive, she would have packed up everything ever touched by that precious baby in order to expediate the truth as to what happened to her!)
I would hope that Lee and George would just pull themselves together and walk away. BTW- I see George as a ‘co-dependant’ and those people are found in relationships with chronically or mentally ill individuals and are in a totally disfunctional family.
Hi All. In for a minute. Every once in awhile I’ll tell my hub the latest highlights of this bizarre case. He laughs. One day he was home sick and the hearing was on. Of course he couldn’t rest cause the TV was blasting, so he watched it with me. He came up with the best rendition yet. He thought that this whole case was fake like the ‘Wag the Dog’ movie with Dustin Hoffman. Remember that? He thought that Bozo was a terrible actor portraying an attorney. He couldn’t believe it. The twists and turns are almost a weekly event, he said to keep people interested and keep the plot thickening and to keep it going.
Wouldn’t it be nice if that was true and in May 2011, they come out and tell us that Caylee is really alive and it was all a made for TV drama? HA! BBL
*Chachi
Funny you asked that question. I wonder the same thing all the time. WHAT will her defense be? I don’t think they will even present one. Baez will attack the evidence and that’s all.
I will miss work if I have to on the day Cindy takes the stand. I can’t wait to watch her squirm.
Hi Everyone,
Casey tells Robyn Adams (jailhouse pen-pal) her dirty little secret!
Yeah right.
She levels sexual abuse allegations against Lee, saying he fondled her in her bedroom when she was betw. the ages of 12 and 15. Casey claimed she told Cindy about it 2 years ago and Cindy dismissed the notion; told her she was to blame and made excuses about Lee sleepwalking.
Casey also told Robyn, “I think my dad used to do the same thing to me, but when I was much younger.”
Notice how Casey frames the accusations in a manner that may lead you to draw the conclusion that both Lee and George had inappropriate sexual relations with her, but did she really say that?
Then you remember her statements to at least two other people (Jesse G. & Tony L.) Well, this is where the inconsistency in her story comes into play.
Here’s what she told Jesse G – In September 2005 Casey told him of an incident when Lee attempted to have sex with her in the Anthony home. She said it happened “recently,” but would not expand upon how recent. She didn’t feel comfortable with Lee being around Caylee.
This was when Caylee was approximately one month old and Casey was 19 years old. And there was no mention of George.
In the June/July 2008 (prior to 15 July 2008) timeframe, Casey told Tony L. the alleged sexual abuse story (similar to what she told Robyn) from Lee happened when she was a young teen. But there was no mention of George.
Let me be clear. I think Casey LIED about Lee and George sexually abusing her. Of course, that doesn’t mean the Defense Team won’t use this story in the penalty phase of the trial with hopes of saving Casey from the DP.
While I’m back on this subject, I don’t want anyone to misunderstand my point regarding the seriousness of real sexual abuse cases. Unfortunately, it happens more than any of us may know. However, as traumatic as this experience can be for a child, it does not cause most to grow up to become murderers.
Casey is a Pathological Liar who can’t keep her stories straight! Okay, off my soap box now.
Hi Diana,
I agree with you that the Defense will be “attacking the evidence.” I also think they will use the SODDI. Beyond that, they really don’t have a workable strategy.
BBL
Hello all, Just a in and out, can’t stay but a min. Humble just love your morn post!! I just have to add this and then try and bbl. Casey in Control as the dumb nut C&G most love saying it!! Well you dumb nut Ant. maybe if you had not let Casey have all that Control!! Caylee would maybe still be alive!! So how are you all feeling right about now not having Caylee? Wait I’m sorry guess everything’s just fine being you got photos of a dead grand baby thats bring in all that blood money right!! What Cindy you all don’t have to worry about who’s going to be nannying her or feeding her or buying cloths for her, taking her to the Dr. appt. if needed!! No where did I read from your note of how you had lost your Caylee? Cindy you never said you loved her?!! What’s up with that!! The Ant. make me so
Keep having those
birthday partys for her and looking at Caylee photos!! Maybe you can get some computer nut to age those photos every year so maybe all you nuts can see what Caylee may look like now!!
Want that be so nice!! No thanks I will be holding and loving my grand babys when my daughter has her babys!! Why how can this be, because I raised her to not kill!! She knows right from wrong we did not leave her in CONTROL!! As your nutty family did, I think you just did not have or take the time for any of your kids Cindy!! Just hope for the best!! Boy are you dumb Cindy!! Just look what that got you dead grand baby and daughter in prison forever!! GOOD JOB!!
hi everyone..just checking in..
Didn’t casey claim in her letter to robyn that she was asleep when the alleged abuse by lee happened. she indicated that she would wake up & her bra would be shifted or pulled up (who wears a bra to bed?) and that someimtes she would find lee sitting in her room.
I think she also stated that she thinks she had a”dream” about being abused by george.
Neither one of these are direct accusations, (I think, I was asleep, I dreamt) just putting it out there.
I’m back, I know it is late or early!! But could not sleep I see not many post after my last one. But I did read your post S&M about 5th one up!! I just wanted to tell you what a good job you did and how I do think you have that bunch of
Ant. family down to a tie!! I’ve told alot of you that have been here from the begaining of all this mess. About what had happened to my daughter, even with her being only 5yrs old it was a very
day!! We did get her the help we knew she would need then and yes later as yrs go by at times she needed even more help!! Also my Hubby and I to needed at times to reach out and get help!! We all went through some very bad times but we are all stronger for it!! I do wish it had never happened, it did hurt so!! Yes one also thinks not in my family, but it did happened!! You just can not put your head in the sand and think it never happened or it will go away!! Because I was on top of it, and did not worry about what other people would have done or not done!! My daughter grew up to become a very Happy and Good person also was loved and can give love back and yes she is a strong person for what happened to her!! It also helps to have God in your life!! We can talk about any thing and if she needs to reach out for help to someone other then me I understand!! So yes you are so right S&M having bad things happen in your life does not make you a bad person!! Your words ring true!! You are right on the money and that comes from someone that has walked in those shoes!! My daughter would be the frist to hold her head up high and tell you this!! Bad things happen to good people, but it does not make the person bad!! You can learn from it and better yourself because of it!! Or fill your life with hate and die little by little!! Or you can choose to live your life full of love and Good things and thats what we did we lived!!
Here’s hoping everyone has a Good and :happy: Day! Take care and hugs to all!! Humble your the best blog with the very best peeps I’ve ever meet!! Don’t forget to, not let those Gum chewing Nuts in!!
Off to get some sleep!!
I started a new post:
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2010/06/30/casey-anthony-checking-out-the-handwriting/